I really thought the deaths were going to be reversed via the time travel setup, but nope. At the end of the movie after the Fedora vanished i threw my hands up and said 'that's it??' out loud. Never had that reaction to the end of a movie before, didn't seem like the full house of about a dozen people were too impressed with it either.
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny
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Just watching Raiders.. can you believe it's nearly 43 years old? 
Still the best Indy film.
Still the best Indy film.
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Care to elaborate? I've yet to see a positive independent review.
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Define independent...
It's up to 68% fresh on rotten tomatoes now, so there are plenty of positive reviews, but overall still not a great percentage.
User reviews have it at 89% though!
It's up to 68% fresh on rotten tomatoes now, so there are plenty of positive reviews, but overall still not a great percentage.
User reviews have it at 89% though!
It's hard without spoilers and the film is only 2 days old. I'll happily post more thoughts next week, as I usually can't be bothered with all the spoiler tags faff!
But, as a general rule I just watch the official trailers of a film and avoid everything else and then just watch the movie. Based on that philosophy alone I enjoy modern films more than a lot of people on internet forums and seldom end up watching things I don't enjoy.
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It would be interesting if someone could come up with a way to do 'verified purchase' movie reviews.
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They do, you upload your ticket stub from certain cinema chains in America
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1st verified user review (5 stars obviously) when clicking verified audience on RT..
"Another blockbuster as only Spielberg/Lucas can make! Interesting plot entwined with history in the tradition of Indiana Jones. Action packed with subtle humor! Sidebar: Indiana Jones is modeled after real life Hiram Bingham explorer of ancient Machu Pichu. Read about him. Go see this movie in theater in Dolby or imax format! I saw in Dolby and would definitely go see again!"
Wonder if Disney is up to it's usual shenanigans
"Another blockbuster as only Spielberg/Lucas can make! Interesting plot entwined with history in the tradition of Indiana Jones. Action packed with subtle humor! Sidebar: Indiana Jones is modeled after real life Hiram Bingham explorer of ancient Machu Pichu. Read about him. Go see this movie in theater in Dolby or imax format! I saw in Dolby and would definitely go see again!"
Wonder if Disney is up to it's usual shenanigans
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Even Disney aren't stupid enough to claim it was made by Spielberg or Lucas this time.
Soldato
@C Kent - Remember, its only called review bombing when its negative reviews. There's no such name for positive review "bombing" which is why apparently news sites don't think it exists 
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I think he was joking
Caporegime
It was a movie of 2 halves for me.... 7/10 No rush to see that again in its entirety
the start and some of the 2nd act was brilliant. Felt like Last crusade/Raiders.. Lots of Nazis lots of charismatic Indy bluffing, fighting... Completely ok.
But then Fleabag comes in and the longer she is on screen the more annoyed i got by her.
Its probably not her fault, its the writing, but i honestly hate the way her character is like some ADHD Scatterbrain genious.
It was just too much It felt like she could do no wrong with a 100 luck roll. Her sidekick discount short round exactly the same....
Yes its a fictional film but it got so OTT lucky/random/right time right place...
The body count she caused for money? I hope she phreaking goes to jail in a post credit scene. She is as bad as the nazis.
the start and some of the 2nd act was brilliant. Felt like Last crusade/Raiders.. Lots of Nazis lots of charismatic Indy bluffing, fighting... Completely ok.
But then Fleabag comes in and the longer she is on screen the more annoyed i got by her.
Its probably not her fault, its the writing, but i honestly hate the way her character is like some ADHD Scatterbrain genious.
It was just too much It felt like she could do no wrong with a 100 luck roll. Her sidekick discount short round exactly the same....
Yes its a fictional film but it got so OTT lucky/random/right time right place...
The body count she caused for money? I hope she phreaking goes to jail in a post credit scene. She is as bad as the nazis.
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Honestly mate they did not know what they were doing all that money was wasted the story was pretty weak overall! Ford had arguments for years with Lucas & Spielberg over what Indy 5 to make it went on so long they both eventually walked away & retired from the franchise...Ford should have done the same after KOTCS (which was a way better finale for the character!).
Director is now arguing that the time period they visit at the end was because blah blah blah would not work if they went to the most obvious one 1944...he is not on the same page as what fans would actually want!
‘Indiana Jones 5’ Director James Mangold Explains the Fate of Shia LaBeouf’s Character and the ‘Wild Swing’ Ending
SPOILER ALERT: This story discusses major plot developments, including the ending, of “Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny,” currently playing in theaters. When director James Mangold started wri…
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Raw thoughts from leaving the cinema just now, without reading other posts.
Overall, it was alright/good - very watchable! I wanted an easy classic Indy ‘McGuffin hunt’ and I think it mostly delivered on that. Execution was mixed though. Some bits (mostly the first half) were a lot better than I expected. The ‘intro sequence’ is pretty awesome and well worthy of the franchise! From the second half, it starts going ‘through the motions’ slightly but never tanks completely.
What stopped it from being great though, IMO, was that it set up for ‘interesting things’ to happen and then… they didn’t. Which was just sort of underwhelming from the set up. If you’re going to ‘go there’… you might as well go for it and be clever.
Some people may hate the final act which, like Crystal Skull, is silly, so brace for that. But it wasn’t ‘awful’ - just a shame it wasn’t as clever as it could have been.
I think it was the amount of green screen and CGI in Crystal Skull that really threw audiences but I’d say the CGI in this looked pretty good in the big screen, so that’s a big plus. I far preferred it to Crystal Skull.
Some people have expressed concern that Fleabag would be annoying (like the dreaded L3 robot in Solo) but I’m pleased to say that she wasn’t. Much like the character ‘Fleabag’ she’s definitely not a squeaky queen ‘high horse’ character… quite the opposite - a lousy scoundrel. I quite liked her actually.
I feel like the film could benefit from some more light / comic / goofy moments, but then with Ford’s age they went for a slightly straighter approach than the other films. It was probably a wiser choice as it could have come across as corny.
Overall, worth a watch if you like the franchise. Definitely not the total car crash I was fearing.
7/10
Edit - from reading some of the above posts, seems we have the same impression; generally OK but blighted as it didn’t deliver on the set up, which was ripe for a more compelling ‘cleverer’ end game.
Overall, it was alright/good - very watchable! I wanted an easy classic Indy ‘McGuffin hunt’ and I think it mostly delivered on that. Execution was mixed though. Some bits (mostly the first half) were a lot better than I expected. The ‘intro sequence’ is pretty awesome and well worthy of the franchise! From the second half, it starts going ‘through the motions’ slightly but never tanks completely.
What stopped it from being great though, IMO, was that it set up for ‘interesting things’ to happen and then… they didn’t. Which was just sort of underwhelming from the set up. If you’re going to ‘go there’… you might as well go for it and be clever.
Some people may hate the final act which, like Crystal Skull, is silly, so brace for that. But it wasn’t ‘awful’ - just a shame it wasn’t as clever as it could have been.
I think it was the amount of green screen and CGI in Crystal Skull that really threw audiences but I’d say the CGI in this looked pretty good in the big screen, so that’s a big plus. I far preferred it to Crystal Skull.
Some people have expressed concern that Fleabag would be annoying (like the dreaded L3 robot in Solo) but I’m pleased to say that she wasn’t. Much like the character ‘Fleabag’ she’s definitely not a squeaky queen ‘high horse’ character… quite the opposite - a lousy scoundrel. I quite liked her actually.
I feel like the film could benefit from some more light / comic / goofy moments, but then with Ford’s age they went for a slightly straighter approach than the other films. It was probably a wiser choice as it could have come across as corny.
Overall, worth a watch if you like the franchise. Definitely not the total car crash I was fearing.
7/10
Edit - from reading some of the above posts, seems we have the same impression; generally OK but blighted as it didn’t deliver on the set up, which was ripe for a more compelling ‘cleverer’ end game.
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I watched raiders today, haven't seen that for years
It's not amazing and Indiana Jones movies have always been silly/unrealistic IMO
Not sure I will catch the new one at the cinema, me and my wife have had bad coughs since Thursday.
It's not amazing and Indiana Jones movies have always been silly/unrealistic IMO
Not sure I will catch the new one at the cinema, me and my wife have had bad coughs since Thursday.
Soldato
Someone explain to me the point of this movie. I don't mean why did Disney make it, I mean rhe point, the lesson we as an audience learn from this movie. What did I miss? Surely you're supposed to leave the cinema and think, yes that's true, family are more important than treasure, etc etc. I can't think of any lesson I learned from this, perhaps because the characters didn't either!