Intel 10th Gen Comet Lake thread

Roguey000 · 24 Oct 2019 at 08:08

Panos said:
Go around and search, there are better prices.

Indeed there are - I am somewhat disappointed in Overclockers price. I normally always checked overclockers first but now ill be checking elsewhere now.

Before I do anything with CPU's im waiting to see how things work out. I thinking after xmas prices might be better - the launch of the 3950x / 9900KS, Brexit and supply/demand hopefully better.

Woodsta888 · 24 Oct 2019 at 10:36

Roguey000 said:
Indeed there are - I am somewhat disappointed in Overclockers price. I normally always checked overclockers first but now ill be checking elsewhere now.

Before I do anything with CPU's im waiting to see how things work out. I thinking after xmas prices might be better - the launch of the 3950x / 9900KS, Brexit and supply/demand hopefully better.

Past 2 years I've found black friday deals to be better than Jan sales prices. In Jan it just seems like the rubbish left that companies want to get rid of. I am stereo typing the high street though.

4K8KW10 · 2 Nov 2019 at 09:08

Intel’s Entire 10th Gen Comet Lake Desktop CPU Lineup Leaked – Up To 10 Cores, 20 Thread Core i9-10900, 80W TDP, W480 Chipset With New LGA 1200 Socket
https://wccftech.com/intel-10th-gen-comet-lake-desktop-cpu-family-400-series-platform-leak/

Grim5 · 2 Nov 2019 at 09:43

Not really seeing anything exciting or unexpected.

But I do see one things that puts it the validity into question.

It's a 14nm chip, 10 cores and a 5.1ghz boost clock and they're claiming the TDP will be just 80w? What are they smoking? I'm going to hazard a guess all the TDP's are at the 3ghz base clock right?

4K8KW10 · 2 Nov 2019 at 09:57

Grim5 said:
Not really seeing anything exciting or unexpected.

But I do see one things that puts it the validity into question.

It's a 14nm chip, 10 cores and a 5.1ghz boost clock and they're claiming the TDP will be just 80w? What are they smoking? I'm going to hazard a guess all the TDP's are at the 3ghz base clock right?

I guess nothing.
If only one core boosts to 5.1GHz for a fraction of the second, while the remaining cores clocks remain at 3GHz...
This is how the mobile chips operate, too.

BTW, the new chipsets are LGA1200 W480, Q470 and H410.

Quartz · 2 Nov 2019 at 10:20

Grim5 said:
and they're claiming the TDP will be just 80w?

Intel have a different way of calculating TDP. I forget the details, but it's not the same as AMD's, nor the way they used to calculate it.

Journey · 2 Nov 2019 at 10:38

18% performance improvement with 25% more cores, for Multi-threaded Compute. Awesome

Grim5 · 2 Nov 2019 at 10:45

Quartz said:
Intel have a different way of calculating TDP. I forget the details, but it's not the same as AMD's, nor the way they used to calculate it.

Yeah but the 5ghz 9900ks has 125w tdp
So how does it drop to 80w with 10 cores 5.1ghz?

Quartz · 2 Nov 2019 at 10:47

Grim5 said:
So how does it drop to 80w with 10 cores 5.1ghz?

By the power of MARKETING!

Toasty · 2 Nov 2019 at 10:50

Intel TDP is on the base clock. 9900k base 3.6 ghz 95w. 9900ks base 4 ghz 127w tdp. All core 5ghz is north of 200w.

DragonQ · 2 Nov 2019 at 16:17

Journey said:
18% performance improvement with 25% more cores, for Multi-threaded Compute. Awesome

Yeah, wtf?

Destination · 2 Nov 2019 at 16:25

Toasty said:
Intel TDP is on the base clock. 9900k base 3.6 ghz 95w. 9900ks base 4 ghz 127w tdp. All core 5ghz is north of 200w.

Aye so how are thye now managing 80w for 10 core, whereas before it was 95w for 8?

have they changed their own BS definition for this series of processors?

Deleted User 456458 · 2 Nov 2019 at 16:26

Destination said:
Aye so how are thye now managing 80w for 10 core, whereas before it was 95w for 8?

have they changed their own BS definition for this series of processors?

Base 3.0ghz

RavenXXX2 · 2 Nov 2019 at 16:27

20 threads on 14 +++++++++++++++++++++

All core frequency will be down on 9900k, hence the paltry 18%.

4K8KW10 · 2 Nov 2019 at 19:03

DragonQ said:
Yeah, wtf?

There is no bad product, there are just bad prices

joedeath332 · 3 Nov 2019 at 00:36

Will there be new ram needed to upgrade to LGA 1200, or will DDR4 be used again
Also will the likes of the AIO cpu coolers that fit the LGA 1151 fit the new socket, or will new coolers be needed as well

Panos · 3 Nov 2019 at 00:52

joedeath332 said:
Will there be new ram needed to upgrade to LGA 1200, or will DDR4 be used again
Also will the likes of the AIO cpu coolers that fit the LGA 1151 fit the new socket, or will new coolers be needed as well

DDR4.

FYI LGA 1200 is for just 1 generation of CPUs that would barely live 8 months.
Is dead by end of 2020 when the first 10nm desktop parts are expected as they will be on newer socket.

Those "new" Intel CPUs are to draw the money out of the market before Zen 3 (Ryzen 4000) hits the shelves.

Grim5 · 3 Nov 2019 at 06:55

gaming 10nm isn't due till late 2021, not 2020.

the only desktop 10nm for 2020 is 15/25w NUC.

Orange Nexus · 3 Nov 2019 at 07:34

Grim5 said:
Not really seeing anything exciting or unexpected.

But I do see one things that puts it the validity into question.

It's a 14nm chip, 10 cores and a 5.1ghz boost clock and they're claiming the TDP will be just 80w? What are they smoking? I'm going to hazard a guess all the TDP's are at the 3ghz base clock right?

If it came from Ryan, then that explains it.

Vertigo · 3 Nov 2019 at 16:10

Grim5 said:
Not really seeing anything exciting or unexpected.

So many AMD fanboys in here just itching to rubbish anything Intel produce :rolleyes:

Hyperthreading across all products down to the i3.
i7-10700 will provide basically the same specs/performance as the existing i9-9900 but at around the £350 mark.
The i5 will provide basically the same specs/performance as the top-end i7-8700k did last year.

This stuff brings significantly better bang-per-buck to the line-up and will take the fight to AMD.

But no, nothing to get excited about at all :rolleyes:

joedeath332 said:
Will there be new ram needed to upgrade to LGA 1200, or will DDR4 be used again

DDR4 still

Also will the likes of the AIO cpu coolers that fit the LGA 1151 fit the new socket, or will new coolers be needed as well

Article states socket dimensions and cooling mountings are unchanged.

Panos said:
FYI LGA 1200 is for just 1 generation of CPUs that would barely live 8 months.
Is dead by end of 2020 when the first 10nm desktop parts are expected as they will be on newer socket.

Says who? A process shrink doesn't necessitate a new socket.