It's funny you mention that, as last weekend I did an update of a system from an i3-8100 to an R7 3700X with a B450 rather than switch the user to a 8700K or 9700K, due to this reason.
-
Competitor rules
Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.
Intel 10th Gen Comet Lake thread
- Thread starter AthlonXP1800
- Start date
It's funny you mention that, as last weekend I did an update of a system from an i3-8100 to an R7 3700X with a B450 rather than switch the user to a 8700K or 9700K, due to this reason.
I suspect this will be the case for many people as ryzen not only offers good price / performance currently but also a future upgrade path to what will be a cheap 12/16 cores in a few years time.
lolwhut?
Associate
- Joined
- 14 Oct 2004
- Posts
- 979
Ignoring the first month or so of stupidly high paper launch prices and averaging for the year, numbers look something like this.
6700K - 2016-19 : £300, £300, £300, £300
7700K - 2017-19 : £300, £260, £340
8700K - 2018-19 : £300, £350
9700K - 2019-20 : £380, £350
1700x - 2017-19 : £325, £220, £175
2700x - 2018-20 : £300, £200, £150
3700x - 2019-20 : £310, £260
And if you watch the latest Gamers Nexus video - Intel are sitting on old old stock in channel rather than clear it for new stuff.
Caporegime
- Joined
- 9 Nov 2009
- Posts
- 25,436
- Location
- Planet Earth
Same as a mate who had a Core I7 6700 and upgraded to Ryzen as they wanted more cores.
Its even more pronounced at the high end.
Intel cascade lake and it's other 18 core parts have been out for a while now. So has the 16 core 3950x being out for a while, Intel doesn't sell any 16 core CPUs anymore.
So I had a look at the February Steam CPU market share by core count and 16 core is dominating 18 core. For every eight 16 core (see 3950x) CPUs that are added, only one 18 core (see 10980xe) is added
Thats actually what sold me a 9900k, knowing it would work in my z370, and it actually prevented me from going to AMD or waiting for intel 10 series.
However I did get my 9900k real cheap as well, otherwise I found it just too hard to justify any type of cpu upgrade at normal prices.
Basically a friend brought a 9900k and ended up been shipped an extra unit, I offered to buy the spare for £200 and he said yes. We both got lucky. Otherwise for sure I would still be on my 8600k.
So what you've just shown there is obsolete technology regresses in price, which is why AMD's older kit costs less than the new stuff. Intel's kit however retains its "value" because it's the same old regurgitated twaddle. The 6700K and 7700K are the same chip. The 8700K and the 9700K are the same chip. You just gotta pay the Intel motherboard tax.
Similarly, you've also shown how Intel continue to price gouge. 14nm is practically pennies to produce now and yet Intel increase prices for the same rehashed CPU.
So yeah again, lolwhut?
Permabanned
- Joined
- 27 Sep 2019
- Posts
- 2,570
^^ The same as in the other thread (AMD) and what you said to another member, what are you doing in her wand what are you bring to this conversation, again Touché
Your cross-thread stalking honours me. I never realised I meant enough to you for you to reply needlessly to me.
Permabanned
- Joined
- 27 Sep 2019
- Posts
- 2,570
This is an Intel thread BTW, so...
Listen, neither AMD, nor Intel, nor nVidia want anything more than as much of your money as they can possibly get.
They aren't your friends. They aren't making chips for the benefit of mankind, because they see it as their calling in life, or because they want to put affordable technology in your hands. They don't care about you, or me, or any of us.
That's all hippy nonsense, and no company with shareholders thinks of anything but profit and returns. None of them.
AMD charge less/give better value when they need to to drive sales, and because of their position as the underdog fighting to gain market share.
Intel charges what it does because it can, because of its dominant position.
I think people have a tendency to put AMD and other underdog companies on a pedestal; to assume that they are the "good guys". There's no such thing in business.
We've seen AMD take the **** when the roles were reversed. It could happen again.
Please, see brand loyalty for what it is - heart ruling head.
Associate
- Joined
- 14 Oct 2004
- Posts
- 979
Personally I'd have no issue with
I'm not sure what you're point is. My original post agrees with everything you just said. Perhaps sarcasm now requires smiley faces.
I'm not sure what you're point is. My original post agrees with everything you just said. Perhaps sarcasm now requires smiley faces.
9700k were around £300 for quite a while and included £50 game red dead.
I paid £313 for mine a few weeks back.
Soldato
- Joined
- 15 Oct 2003
- Posts
- 15,678
- Location
- Chengdu
Really hope Tiger Lake is out this year.
Panther Canyon NUC will likely be my next IT purchase.
Panther Canyon NUC will likely be my next IT purchase.
First review out of China for the 10600 and 10700 and 10400 parts
if you can't be arsed, the performance is exactly what you'd expect, there is nothing new to see, just yet another generation of rebranded CPUs
https://translate.googleusercontent...19152/&usg=ALkJrhgMb4xlcHtccyJ38Am95CINMYIcqA
if you can't be arsed, the performance is exactly what you'd expect, there is nothing new to see, just yet another generation of rebranded CPUs
https://translate.googleusercontent...19152/&usg=ALkJrhgMb4xlcHtccyJ38Am95CINMYIcqA
Associate
- Joined
- 31 Aug 2017
- Posts
- 2,209
Shock at news, said almost no one. 
Looks like maybe they got an extra 1% this year and a little less heat.
I'm looking forward to seeing how high they will clock up (not that I would buy one).
Jeez that’s a deal and a half.