Intel 10th Gen Comet Lake thread

[wookiee87]

which board is that? Must look funny lol

search on google Z490 Velocita from ASRock

 

[easyrider]

Just quick search around the new motherboards for them using 3 fans for the VRM.

 

[wookiee87]

i can't wait for Linus to get a hold of this kit, he was really mad with the 10980xe imagine his reaction to this XD

 

[Sargatanas2511]

all retailer's should put up warning's of how power hungry the cpus become under overclocking conditions, i wouldn't be surprised if Intel refuse rma's due to cpu's dying using low end psu's, you'd be talking 1k psu's or 2 650-800w units in tandem if you got serious with overclocking

Yup, overclocking + 2080Ti + fans/drives etc. You're probably pushing 700-750W under full load. I can imagine Intel distancing themselves from that as quick as they can or a lawsuit appearing about it.

 

[wookiee87]

Yup, overclocking + 2080Ti + fans/drives etc. You're probably pushing 700-750W under full load. I can imagine Intel distancing themselves from that as quick as they can or a lawsuit appearing about it.

to add gonna need psu's with serious amount of amps on the 12v rail, whats the general average amps on the 12v rail's psu's output now?

 

[Sargatanas2511]

to add gonna need psu's with serious amount of amps on the 12v rail, whats the general average amps on the 12v rail's psu's output now?

I would say around 45-55A on a decent psu. Mine is 71A on the 12V rail but a lot won't even look for amps.

 

[Curlyriff]

It's already been confirmed by motherboard vendors today, the CPU will pull up to 350w with all the boost options enabled. It is limited by temperature though - the bios won't let the 10900k just draw 350w on a tiny $10 cooler - cpu temperature must be under 70c at load for the full boost to kick in but when they boost kicks in that's when you get 350w and 5.3ghz, if the temps go over 70c clock speed and power draw drops

Not even a 360mm AIO is enough to get advertised performance from the 10900k, it's a custom loop and a big one at that or bust.

In previous generations Intel cpus would boost as long as temps stayed under 100c but for the 10900k the boost limit is 70c. I wonder why, is Intel thinking the cpu will degrade at over 70c???

The Intel chip does still boost under 100c as previous chips in fairness. It just has an additional setting where those lower 70c temps are managed. Not saying good or bad just that nothing has changed from previous Gen with that.

 

[Grim5]

ASUS have some of the boards and accompanying data online. I was looking through it and then I noticed that ASUS recommends you use a 360mm AIO cpu cooler going down the stack as low down as the 10600k.

So even the 6 core 10th series models are power hungry and hot

 

[TonTom]

Wow, Intel have done well to be this far behind AMD. How times have changed.

 

[Cooper]

As a 9900K (5Ghz 1.35vlts) owner that can keep temperatures well under control with a £50 Dark Rock 4 air cooler, I take all claims about crazy cooling requirements with Intel CPU's with a bucket of salt.

..if you intend to sit there and run Prime95 stress tests or encoding video or graphiocs rendering 24/7, at 5Ghz+ all day long, then yes, you'll need a top end AIO or custom loop, in which case there are better CPU choices out there, but for 98% of the rest of us, a good high end air cooler is perfectly adequate for gaming and all the other things we do, at 5Ghz.

I've never seen my 9900K get above 65c in gaming, with it topping out at 85c-90c in the usual suspect of CPU intensive benchmarks.

So when it comes to cooling top end Intel CPU's, don't believe all the hype and disinformation put about by the AMD fanboy crowd.

Having said all that, my next PC will be a Zen 3/4 build

 

[Grim5]

As a 9900K (5Ghz 1.35vlts) owner that can keep temperatures well under control with a £50 Dark Rock 4 air cooler, I take all claims about crazy cooling requirements with Intel CPU's with a bucket of salt.

..if you intend to sit there and run Prime95 stress tests or encoding video or graphiocs rendering 24/7, at 5Ghz+ all day long, then yes, you'll need a top end AIO or custom loop, in which case there are better CPU choices out there, but for 98% of the rest of us, a good high end air cooler is perfectly adequate for gaming and all the other things we do, at 5Ghz.

I've never seen my 9900K get above 65c in gaming, with it topping out at 85c-90c in the usual suspect of CPU intensive benchmarks.

So when it comes to cooling top end Intel CPU's, don't believe all the hype and disinformation put about by the AMD fanboy crowd.

Having said all that, my next PC will be a Zen 3/4 build

No, it's very much still worth talking about. You are assuming that every person who buys an intel cpu only plays games and nothing else. Using applications for work that are multithreaded will hit the cpu hard.

 

[Cooper]

No, it's very much still worth talking about. You are assuming that every person who buys an intel cpu only plays games and nothing else. Using applications for work that are multithreaded will hit the cpu hard.

Fine, you talk all you want, I'll get on with running my CPU at the speeds I want and temps WELL within thermal limits, for the princely sum of £54.

..and as I said in my OP, for the usage scenario you describe, there are better choices out there than the 9900K (or 10900K)

 

[Deleted User 456458]

ASUS have some of the boards and accompanying data online. I was looking through it and then I noticed that ASUS recommends you use a 360mm AIO cpu cooler going down the stack as low down as the 10600k.

So even the 6 core 10th series models are power hungry and hot

It’s so the chips can hit the frequency peak.

 

[Stringy]

I wonder if Comet Lake is the reason for the lack of affordable Gemini Lake systems available. Each generation I've gone up for about £150 for a 11 inch laptop, first an Atom Z8350, now a Pentium N4200 Apollo Lake, was looking at an N5000 laptop but didn't have the cash and thought the Gemini Lake Refresh N5030 was about to go into mainstream laptops... yet current prices are sky high even for budget laptops.

Perhaps they've reallocated 14nm production to Comet?

I’m about to get a Lenovo Ideapad Flex 3, prices on this seem reasonable for the N5030. I’m even using employee discount to get it for £230. Unfortunately it’s only 4GB RAM but I might chuck Linux on it if Windows struggles with that.

 

[Deleted User 456458]

So now that "reveal" is over, my take is that CML should have been on 1151. There's no reason for a socket change. The chip themselves are well priced, will OC real well and will have a great IMC so you get the maximum out of high end memory. For a lot of us Z390 owners, an upgrade would be in the cards. As of now, due to the cost of the new boards that add nothing whatsoever from a features and value standpoint, there's no point in upgrading regardless of how good the chips are. I will be jealous of people I know who will be running 5.4+ and 5000mhz ram for daily though!

 

[Grim5]

So now that "reveal" is over, my take is that CML should have been on 1151. There's no reason for a socket change. The chip themselves are well priced, will OC real well and will have a great IMC so you get the maximum out of high end memory. For a lot of us Z390 owners, an upgrade would be in the cards. As of now, due to the cost of the new boards that add nothing whatsoever from a features and value standpoint, there's no point in upgrading regardless of how good the chips are. I will be jealous of people I know who will be running 5.4+ and 5000mhz ram for daily though!

5000mhz ram? Who will buy that kind of ram, only LN2 world record setters no one doing that daily. In any case, 8400mhz DDR5 will be here late next year

 

[Deleted User 456458]

5000mhz ram? Who will buy that kind of ram, only LN2 world record setters no one doing that daily. In any case, 8400mhz DDR5 will be here late next year

Plenty of people I know run 4400+ daily on their bdie and rev.e on z390.

I'm at 4200 1T but can run 4400 just as well but on 2T so it's not worth it. Running 4400+ on a 2 dimm z390 with a 9900k isn't anything special if you know how to mem tune.

 

[Joxeon]

Plenty of people I know run 4400+ daily on their bdie and rev.e on z390.

I'm at 4200 1T but can run 4400 just as well but on 2T so it's not worth it. Running 4400+ on a 2 dimm z390 with a 9900k isn't anything special if you know how to mem tune.

I didn't think Intel benefitted much from fast ram?.

 

[Deleted User 456458]

I didn't think Intel benefitted much from fast ram?.

It does. A lot. You just need to tune your secondary and tertiary timings and tighten up your RTL's. XMP sets very loose timings that get looser as you go up in frequency so in reviews, testing xmp kits, it seems like the improvement is minor.

 

[faceman123]

As a 9900K (5Ghz 1.35vlts) owner that can keep temperatures well under control with a £50 Dark Rock 4 air cooler, I take all claims about crazy cooling requirements with Intel CPU's with a bucket of salt.

..if you intend to sit there and run Prime95 stress tests or encoding video or graphiocs rendering 24/7, at 5Ghz+ all day long, then yes, you'll need a top end AIO or custom loop, in which case there are better CPU choices out there, but for 98% of the rest of us, a good high end air cooler is perfectly adequate for gaming and all the other things we do, at 5Ghz.

I've never seen my 9900K get above 65c in gaming, with it topping out at 85c-90c in the usual suspect of CPU intensive benchmarks.

So when it comes to cooling top end Intel CPU's, don't believe all the hype and disinformation put about by the AMD fanboy crowd.

Having said all that, my next PC will be a Zen 3/4 build

Different for me 9900k at 5ghz 1.35 as well under rendering it was hitting 90a Corsair 280 aio. They're hot af. Sold up went ryzen 3900x big performance boost and temps stay around 54-58c full load oc