Intel 10th Gen Comet Lake thread

[wookiee87]

I grabbed the 9700k on a whim really and hadn't heard about the frametime issues at that point even reviews at the time stated it was a solid gaming cpu, ony shortly after purchase did I notice the frame time issues and see them start to crop up on YouTube vids and it was too late by then.

I game at 3440 by 1440 on a 2080 super.

I've come into a bit of doah so wanted to sort my frametime issue out and possibly grab a 2080ti if I find one cheap enough till ampere appears which will hopefully be September/October time

if it was me i'd keep the 2080 super as thats a solid card, they should overclock well too, i'd be buying a b450 tomahawk/x570 and a 3900x.
the extra cores will help no end with multi tasking and although frame rates may be lower, frame times will be a lot more consistent with very few or none to be had. Also you'd have a upgrade path too, if you buy a 2080ti you still have the same cpu that is suffering with frame times and will likely get worse due to the more powerful gpu, it'll be a catch 22

 

[steverebo]

I thought you bought the 9900K, and a Maximius XI code recently to try and fix the micro-stutter?

Your giving me painful flashbacks , wife made me sell sell that system back at the beginning of last year managed to build a new and have slowly worked my way back to where I am now with my new rig which is not even close to what I used to have its a peasants system in comparison

I was looking to upgrade both CPU and GPU. This has hot to be the hardest time choosing a platform ever because I'm gaming at 3440 by 1440 I need raw frames but at the same time I need good frame time stability and some future proofing

 

[Journey]

I was looking to upgrade both CPU and GPU. This has hot to be the hardest time choosing a platform ever because I'm gaming at 3440 by 1440 I need raw frames but at the same time I need good frame time stability and some future proofing

I'd wait to see if the current prices settle down then, if you already have the base system (Skt 1151) then dropping in the 9900K seems the most logical option as you'll have the money back from the 9700K. If you go full board/CPU/RAM upgrade you really want to do it when it is worthwhile, e.g. new socket, new RAM, new PCI-E bus and other features etc. Going LGA1200 is committing to something that is already marked for a short life span, and going AM4 now with AMD is also approaching its EOL status (well Q3 2021-ish).

Basically, unless you have money to burn or 'need' something now I'd invest money in the nice shiny new GPU's that are out EOY.

 

[steverebo]

I'd wait to see if the current prices settle down then, if you already have the base system (Skt 1151) then dropping in the 9900K seems the most logical option as you'll have the money back from the 9700K. If you go full board/CPU/RAM upgrade you really want to do it when it is worthwhile, e.g. new socket, new RAM, new PCI-E bus and other features etc. Going LGA1200 is committing to something that is already marked for a short life span, and going AM4 now with AMD is also approaching its EOL status (well Q3 2021-ish).

Basically, unless you have money to burn or 'need' something now I'd invest money in the nice shiny new GPU's that are out EOY.

That would be the logical option and ideal really, the issue is the price of the 9900k at the moment I could grab a brand new processor and mobo for the price people are asking for the 9900k even second hand

 

[Journey]

That would be the logical option and ideal really, the issue is the price of the 9900k at the moment I could grab a brand new processor and mobo for the price people are asking for the 9900k even second hand

You could be taking advantage of that situation, selling your 9700K + motherboard then. and opting for an AM4 based system and CPU, something like a B450 + R53600 or 3700X could have a 4xxx CPU placed in it later in the year/next year and you'd have a system that is faster than the Intel and cost less.

 

[FireTwo]

really want to see some leaked benchmarks of this new 10th gen! 10700k/10900k ect over 9900k/3900x
got a good feeling shame about the pcie4 or lack of though :/

 

[Panos]

And something that was known for a long time. LGA1700 with Alder Lake next year.

https://wccftech.com/intel-alder-lake-s-next-gen-desktop-cpus-lga-1700-socket-support/

 

[Dave2150]

And something that was known for a long time. LGA1700 with Alder Lake next year.

https://wccftech.com/intel-alder-lake-s-next-gen-desktop-cpus-lga-1700-socket-support/

Alderlake-S is my next upgrade from my almost 5 year old 6700k (Skylake). This will be the 'big daddy' in my opinion - DDR5, PCI-E V5, 10/7nm, insane IPC thanks to new architecture, likely a chiplet design. Crucially, this will be the first architecture that Jim Keller has had full control over (he was the guy who designed Zen....).

I hope AMD will be able to compete with Alder Lake LGA 1700 (if they are equal for gaming, I'll go AMD), though I highly doubt they'll come close, knowing that it's a Jim Keller chip.

 

[danlightbulb]

And something that was known for a long time. LGA1700 with Alder Lake next year.

https://wccftech.com/intel-alder-lake-s-next-gen-desktop-cpus-lga-1700-socket-support/

Wow what a joke this makes the comet lake and rocket lake releases. A whole new socket firstly for a chip that doesn't take advantage of it and then secondly for a chip that will be replaced again 6 months after.

 

[Panos]

Alderlake-S is my next upgrade from my almost 5 year old 6700k (Skylake). This will be the 'big daddy' in my opinion - DDR5, PCI-E V5, 10/7nm, insane IPC thanks to new architecture, likely a chiplet design. Crucially, this will be the first architecture that Jim Keller has had full control over (he was the guy who designed Zen....).

I hope AMD will be able to compete with Alder Lake LGA 1700 (if they are equal for gaming, I'll go AMD), though I highly doubt they'll come close, knowing that it's a Jim Keller chip.

Next year AMD has Zen 4 at 5nm, with DDR5/PCIe5/Infinity Fabric 3. And the latter is the big deal integrating the GPU and CPU sharing resources (including VRAM).

 

[Panos]

Wow what a joke this makes the comet lake and rocket lake releases. A whole new socket firstly for a chip that doesn't take advantage of it and then secondly for a chip that will be replaced again 6 months after.

On top of power hungry, heat produces requiring 360mm-480mm rad and open loop with the 10 core CPU been slower than the 3900X let alone the 3950X on multi threading apps.

 

[Dave2150]

Next year AMD has Zen 4 at 5nm, with DDR5/PCIe5/Infinity Fabric 3. And the latter is the big deal integrating the GPU and CPU sharing resources (including VRAM).

Lets hope so, though my money is on the Jim Kellers designed Alder Lake -S being the new king. Question is, will it be a sandy bridge vs bulldozer affair, or will AMD be able to still compete?

Exciting times either way.

 

[Curlyriff]

Next year AMD has Zen 4 at 5nm, with DDR5/PCIe5/Infinity Fabric 3. And the latter is the big deal integrating the GPU and CPU sharing resources (including VRAM).

PCIE 5.0 isn't likely to be there yet. That is likely Zen 5 at earliest from latest news and leaks provided.

 

[Deleted User 456458]

There's no consumer DDR5 until 2022.

 

[Curlyriff]

There's no consumer DDR5 until 2022.

Yeah but Zen4 is also meant to be 2022 now so he just forgot to not say next year either really.

 

[Panos]

There's no consumer DDR5 until 2022.

Yeah but Zen4 is also meant to be 2022 now so he just forgot to not say next year either really.

This argument sits on only 1 leak, from someone who gave it to GN and all websites recycling one another based on that single leak of a single page of a presentation about the server Genoa and SP5. Without any further information.

Everything prior to April 20, indicated Zen 4 in 2021.

 

[Deleted User 456458]

DDR5 spec is not even final.

https://www.jedec.org/category/technology-focus-area/main-memory-ddr3-ddr4-sdram

Server DDR5 will come first. Consumer after that.

Samsung hadn't even started any serous dev work until march 2020 of this year.

 

[Curlyriff]

This argument sits on only 1 leak, from someone who gave it to GN and all websites recycling one another based on that single leak of a single page of a presentation about the server Genoa and SP5. Without any further information.

Everything prior to April 20, indicated Zen 4 in 2021.

Indeed but that's the latest info as such and everything else is just as much a leak or similar.

 

[Journey]

Pretty embarrassing that LPDDR5 is finalised and being used prior to DDR5 having the full spec released. The large memory manufacturers will be in a huge hurry go get DDR5 to mass market to recoup their losses, and minimal margins on DDR4 currently.

Consumer DDR5 will be available in 2021, but more than likely Q4.

 

[kitfit1]

Pretty embarrassing that LPDDR5 is finalised and being used prior to DDR5 having the full spec released. The large memory manufacturers will be in a huge hurry go get DDR5 to mass market to recoup their losses, and minimal margins on DDR4 currently.

Consumer DDR5 will be available in 2021, but more than likely Q4.

I can't really say i'm looking forward to DDR5 in all honesty. It'll probably be the same as DDR to DDR2 to DDR3 to DDR4. All of the early sets had rubbish timings and it wasn't really until about half way through each cycle that we got fast ram with tight timings. I don't see DDR5 being any different.