Intel got there because AMD had nothing to compete with, now that's not the case anymore.
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Intel admits it won't catch up with AMD's 7nm chips until 2021
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That and intel has the logistics and support services, which its customers find important - imo. Its resources are unmatched, especially to small, third-world countries. They are there providing their products to both private and public offices. Most HP and Dell products from these countries have intel in them. AMD, i think, will not have the same capacity. Not for a long while.
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How many years did we get barely 5-10% improvement from Intel? Then forcing socket change on top of that! The chickens have come home to roost.
Exactly. A strong AMD is very good for consumers, because Intel will have to up their game, cut prices, or face losing market share year on year. If only we had three CPU manufacturers instead of two, even better for consumers!
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Exactly. A strong AMD is very good for consumers, because Intel will have to up their game, cut prices, or face losing market share year on year. If only we had three CPU manufacturers instead of two, even better for consumers!
Yes indeed, bring back Cyrix processors!Exactly. A strong AMD is very good for consumers, because Intel will have to up their game, cut prices, or face losing market share year on year. If only we had three CPU manufacturers instead of two, even better for consumers!
Intel will never allow a 3rd manufacture of x86 CPU’s I know 2 other companies can make x86 if I remember correctly but intel won’t allow for anyone else to enter the market they own the basis on
shame really would love to qualcomm and Samsung etc to have a go tbh
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NVIDIA!!.Intel will never allow a 3rd manufacture of x86 CPU’s I know 2 other companies can make x86 if I remember correctly but intel won’t allow for anyone else to enter the market they own the basis on
Personally, I think in future CPU's will not be needed in many cases. I think that's a reason why Intel is having to enter the market. I think it's more than just another revenue avenue.
Caporegime
Its cost and the practicality of producing CPU dies a quarter the size of the wafer.
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Intel will never allow a 3rd manufacture of x86 CPU’s I know 2 other companies can make x86 if I remember correctly but intel won’t allow for anyone else to enter the market they own the basis on
How would Intel have a say?
Soldato
How would Intel have a say?
Intel invented x86.
Associate
So how did AMD enter the market?
Caporegime
By making X86 CPU's for IBM under license from Intel.
Soldato
AMD was originally a second source for x86 CPUs. IBM used x86 CPUs in the IBM Personal Computer,and required that there would be a second backup source of manufacture for the CPUs. So AMD started making Intel designed CPUs,then branched out and started making their own,first reverse engineered designs which were meant to not have any Intel specific technologies(a few others did the same),and then they branched out into making their own CPUs.
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Here is an article which talks about their history upto 2012:
https://www.techspot.com/article/599-amd-rise-and-fall/
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I see. I'm surprised Intel didn't pull the license!
Caporegime
Don't think however that Intel can just retract AMD's X86 license, well..... they could but then AMD could retract their X64 License from Intel and then no one can make 'X86_64' CPU's.
AMD and Intel are joined at the hip.
Edit. yeah read above ^^^^
AMD and Intel are joined at the hip.
Edit. yeah read above ^^^^
Soldato
Oh,but they tried to. AMD then years later made 64 bit extensions for x86. Intel tried to retire x86 in favour of Itanium,but AMD managed to keep x86 relevant and Intel licensed the 64 bit extensions off AMD.
They need AMD to have it for both monopoly and AMD own the x64 instruction set. Hence a cross license agreement.
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Thank you chaps, very enlightening. I bet Intel are kicking themselves now!
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In what way?
In the real world core vs core for say games. What's the percentage the amd is in front of Intel.
Associate
China probably already has, they have agents everywhere, or so most Americans would have you believe!
