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Intel Arc series unveiled with the Alchemist dGPU to arrive in Q1 2022
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It's not totally crap it's just entirely unimpressive for a company with Intels size and resource. I may even buy one to play with but I wouldn't for a second use one in a main machine that I actually want to use. Intel make great hardware, it's what they do... I said it years back and will find the posts. This will fail due to software, Intel have 10,000 software engineers yet have no idea how to put those resources towards actually making adequate software, let alone good software.
Things look quite grim for the Arc - all the reviews are negative, cost of materials is probably higher than an RTX 3070 (TSMC 6N crystal, 256 bit memory), but the performance is similar to an RTX 2060.
Intel will need to absorb a ton of losses in this and the next generation before they have a somewhat competitive, somewhat profitable product in the 3rd generation.
Think they may refocus Arc as AI/ML/neural network compute processor and abandon the consumer/gaming market.
Intel will need to absorb a ton of losses in this and the next generation before they have a somewhat competitive, somewhat profitable product in the 3rd generation.
Think they may refocus Arc as AI/ML/neural network compute processor and abandon the consumer/gaming market.
This is why we only had 2 competitors in the GPU market for years as starting from scratch in designing and building a GPU costs a huge amount of cash and then the software side needs investment also.
Absolutely - a modern GPU is 20% hardware and 80% software. nVidia has a lot more people working on their software than on hardware.
I’m quite impressed by Intel’s first effort. No, it’s not ready for prime time but I think they need to look at it as a beta test for the range and simply give away the cards. Or sell them for a nominal fee. At least for now.
It's built like a cheap toy is the problem, the tape on the backplate means you need new tape and then the chance of bending the flimsy thin backplate removing it and then it's warped when trying to stick it back. Steve states as others noticed it is one of the worst cards to dismantle and put back together. Anyone with some skill in taking items apart can do it but the point is it's a hassle to do and could have easily been designed better.
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what is intel playing at? they don't give instructions on how to dissassemble either....
even lego has instructions what a disgrace, how are we meant to use this thing if we can't even build it? Not even a screw driver in the box man! maybe ikea should be the official retailer
I bought one then had to nip down to screw fix to get a Philips head before I could even disassemble the card and put it in my pc, why make these things so damn hard to open? must be the worst kinder egg I've ever had.
Not even a toy inside! come on intel1!!! get your stuff together, they should't even give this away with a happy meal
even lego has instructions what a disgrace, how are we meant to use this thing if we can't even build it? Not even a screw driver in the box man! maybe ikea should be the official retailer
I bought one then had to nip down to screw fix to get a Philips head before I could even disassemble the card and put it in my pc, why make these things so damn hard to open? must be the worst kinder egg I've ever had.
Not even a toy inside! come on intel1!!! get your stuff together, they should't even give this away with a happy meal
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But for the vast vast vast majority of people who will (maybe) buy this card, they will be more bothered about whether it is performant or not … the disassembly of a card such as this is just such a non-issue for the majority of buyers And I don’t think it should be made out to be the big issue it seems to be portrayed as.
Arknor,
Just be thankful it didn’t need a left handed Philips screwdriver … you would be raging!
Soldato
I see the whole situation through a different lens.
Imagine, you're buying a car. You come across a brand that offers the same features as some other car you like but at 1/3 the cost.
The only downside is, some of the main features are locked behind a software update you'll get in 6-12 months for free.
Do you buy the other car? Or do you buy the one 1/3 the cost? Do you need the features right now?
That's where I am. Coming from 1070 I'm assured an upgrade, and then with time it'll only get better (benchies show it has the horsepower)
Imagine, you're buying a car. You come across a brand that offers the same features as some other car you like but at 1/3 the cost.
The only downside is, some of the main features are locked behind a software update you'll get in 6-12 months for free.
Do you buy the other car? Or do you buy the one 1/3 the cost? Do you need the features right now?
That's where I am. Coming from 1070 I'm assured an upgrade, and then with time it'll only get better (benchies show it has the horsepower)
Caporegime
Why not just buy this? Its faster and costs the same, and it just works.
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no thank you why would I buy something that isnt complete and hope it gets fixed over time when something else is available which works , 6650XT posted above
Intel are big enough that they dont need people buying out of sympathy unless you have some kind of brand loyalty which I never understood
Soldato
Cause the performance won't improve. The performance per dollar in months will be better or nearer a 3070 I reckon.Why not just buy this? Its faster and costs the same, and it just works.
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Caporegime
With respect i think you're deluded if you think that.
I think what you're buying is an AMD Vega Mk2, the same team that made that made this and it behaves in a very similar way.
Even ignoring that no one should be buying an overpriced slow card now with the hope that in a few months it will triple in performance, no, it wont, that's insane.
The RX 66500XT is already near twice as fast as your GTX 1070 and costs the same as the A770.
Caporegime
Soldato
I'll take it!
Sorry need to get some tissues to contain my drool.
I'd rather back a new player. I like underdogs.
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Caporegime
Also its competing with current gen AMD and Nvidia which are gonna be replaced really soon
I hope AMD has something good this time and lower over what Nvidia is offering as you say I like underdogs not to the point if it performs worse for not much less
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