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Intel Core i9-9990XE: 14c/28t, 5.0 GHz boost, 255 W TDP

Ahh what a multi purpose CPU this will be, when its finished throttling itself to oblivion under stock conditions a quick MCE or similar over clock in the bios instantly give you a small supernova on the verge of collapse into a black hole.
If you time it right with the correct chipset, again from Intel, you stand a good chance of making a Tardis.


Intel, now breaking into the Time machine market - untapped as of yet by everyone nvidia and AMD who like to bring old video cards back to the future for mid range guff from time to time.
 
JCLDJB said:
Still though...14-Cores @5Ghz with HT is an Overclocker's dream..
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The record holders are using 7980/9980xe's though, 18c/36t chips which will do 5ghz with good cooling, and 6ghz with sub-zero cooling. Far better off with those chips than a 14c chip which is going to cost god knows how much more.
 
andy_mk3 said:
The record holders are using 7980/9980xe's though, 18c/36t chips which will do 5ghz with good cooling, and 6ghz with sub-zero cooling. Far better off with those chips than a 14c chip which is going to cost god knows how much more.
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I am not arguing the fact the will cost an arm and a leg for anyone stupid enough to buy it.

But when comparing the 7980XE's 18C/36T and Frequencies (release almost 1.5 years ago), VS this newer 9980XE's 14C/28T, I do still think it might just surpass the 7980XE.

Difference in IPC perhaps? Improved efficiency of clocks or something (Intel's 7980XE was released in august 2017 after all, and this is a 2019 chip).

I dunno, I am most likely 100% wrong on this, but it's still an intriguing LN2 proposition I think.

Not that I am justifying it's price/clocks/TDP or even it's existence for that matter!

Intel's CEO can swallow that chip (flat contacts and all) for all I care!
 
Intel's Core architecture IPC hasn't changed since 2015 and hasn't changed much since 2013. It wouldn't randomly change on a no-warranty, no-retail chip.
 
JCLDJB said:
But when comparing the 7980XE's 18C/36T and Frequencies (release almost 1.5 years ago), VS this newer 9980XE's 14C/28T, I do still think it might just surpass the 7980XE.

Difference in IPC perhaps? Improved efficiency of clocks or something (Intel's 7980XE was released in august 2017 after all, and this is a 2019 chip).
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The 7980XE and the 9980XE are the same CPU. The only difference is Intel soldered the IHS on the 9980XE to boost the clocks a little. And by a little I mean about 200MHz. Not that I would condone directing people to Linus Tech Tips, but he covers this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Ww2vNAjN0

The 9990XE is just going to be the same thing, only using a 9940XE and removing all safety limits to allow you to push to 5GHz. That's why there's no warranty.
 
LePhuronn said:
Not that I would condone directing people to Linus Tech Tips, but he covers this:
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Yeah that's a fair statement. xD

LePhuronn said:
The 7980XE and the 9980XE are the same CPU. The only difference is Intel soldered the IHS on the 9980XE to boost the clocks a little. And by a little I mean about 200MHz. Not that I would condone directing people to Linus Tech Tips, but he covers this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Ww2vNAjN0

The 9990XE is just going to be the same thing, only using a 9940XE and removing all safety limits to allow you to push to 5GHz. That's why there's no warranty.
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Yeah it's true that the lack of Warranty basically means "here's something we created, but we have no idea if it'll work for a week, month or year..but here it is anyways"..sad really.

DragonQ said:
Intel's Core architecture IPC hasn't changed since 2015 and hasn't changed much since 2013. It wouldn't randomly change on a no-warranty, no-retail chip.
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Oh no doubt the core arc hasn't changed much, but the increased L3 Cache and higher memory frequency support of CoffeeLake VS SkyLake 14++++++ do count for something though, no?

(again, I'm not defending it, just a healthy discussion/debate/exchange of words) :)
 
JCLDJB said:
Oh no doubt the core arc hasn't changed much, but the increased L3 Cache and higher memory frequency support of CoffeeLake VS SkyLake 14++++++ do count for something though, no?
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In the days of the Athlon 64 vs Pentium 4, no one would even bother to change the so called generation with the only difference being higher frequency.
Begin with Pentium 4 2.5 GHz, Athlon 64 2600+, Pentium 4 2.8 GHz, Athlon 64 3000+, Pentium 4 3.2 GHz, Athlon 64 3400+, Pentium 4 3.4 GHz, Athlon 64 3700+, all the way up to Athlon 64 X2 5000+ vs Pentium EE 965 3.73 GHz.
 
gbgt2 said:
A ridiculous 255 W TDP and no warranty? I can see people just rushing to get hold of one ..
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8 core 9900K has 200W max consumption if cooling (or BIOS) doesn't limit automatic boosting.
Now do you think 14 cores is going to fit into 255W?


JCLDJB said:
Still though...14-Cores @5Ghz with HT is an Overclocker's dream.. 400W space heater.
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Now it's correct.
Already 8 cores @5GHz has 250W max consumption.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-9900k-9th-gen-cpu,5847-11.html
 
BongoHunter said:
Hang on a mo - is this chip meant to do all core boost to 5ghz with only 255w?

Surely that's not possible with the laws of physics!
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TDP isn't a figure of how high the power draw is. A 9900k for example has a TDP of 95W but pulls over 200W. It's a measure of heat dissipation, and one that each company calculates differently.
 
Niche is an understatement, but this isn't aimed at anyone posting in here. 14 physical cores running at 5GHz-5.2GHz on a 9940X will still wipe the floor for the time being. Heck, it's not as though you could offer similar on Zen.
 
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