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Intel Core Ultra 9 285k 'Arrow Lake' Discussion/News ("15th gen") on LGA-1851

285k performance re-tested, gaming is now faster, though still behind the 14900k. Still missing the January 2025 bios updates

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Arrow Lake Retested with Latest 24H2 Updates and 0x114 Microcode

Yesterday, Intel announced that they had root-caused the majority of Arrow Lake Core Ultra 200 performance problems, and that OS updates are already available. We tested Windows 11 24H2 with the new patches, and also compare results with 23H2 and a new motherboard BIOS.
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Grim5 said:
285k performance re-tested, gaming is now faster, though still behind the 14900k. Still missing the January 2025 bios updates

www.techpowerup.com

Arrow Lake Retested with Latest 24H2 Updates and 0x114 Microcode

Yesterday, Intel announced that they had root-caused the majority of Arrow Lake Core Ultra 200 performance problems, and that OS updates are already available. We tested Windows 11 24H2 with the new patches, and also compare results with 23H2 and a new motherboard BIOS.
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Lot of cases still struggles against the 14700 never mind 14900 - those BIOS updates have a lot of heavy lifting to do (given Intel is quoting 3-8% uplift from them I'm not sure why anyone would be buying Arrow Lake outside of very specific usages).
 
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Grim5 said:
285k performance re-tested, gaming is now faster, though still behind the 14900k. Still missing the January 2025 bios updates

www.techpowerup.com

Arrow Lake Retested with Latest 24H2 Updates and 0x114 Microcode

Yesterday, Intel announced that they had root-caused the majority of Arrow Lake Core Ultra 200 performance problems, and that OS updates are already available. We tested Windows 11 24H2 with the new patches, and also compare results with 23H2 and a new motherboard BIOS.
www.techpowerup.com www.techpowerup.com
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As expected, Arrow Lake is still Arrow Lake. Can't polish a turd. RIP z890 platform.

Hope Nova Lake gives AMD some competition - need 16 core CCX!
 
Techpowerup have now tested the new 0x114 BIOS microcode and found that it makes no difference in gaming performance

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Intel Arrow Lake 0x114 Microcode Already Out, No Significant Gains—We Tested

Motherboard vendor ASUS began rolling out UEFI firmware (BIOS) updates to its Intel Z890 motherboards that contain Intel's 0x114 Microcode update for Core Ultra "Arrow Lake-S" desktop processors. The new microcode was touted as bringing in performance gains to gaming workloads across the board...
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Grim5 said:
Techpowerup have now tested the new 0x114 BIOS microcode and found that it makes no difference in gaming performance

www.techpowerup.com

Intel Arrow Lake 0x114 Microcode Already Out, No Significant Gains—We Tested

Motherboard vendor ASUS began rolling out UEFI firmware (BIOS) updates to its Intel Z890 motherboards that contain Intel's 0x114 Microcode update for Core Ultra "Arrow Lake-S" desktop processors. The new microcode was touted as bringing in performance gains to gaming workloads across the board...
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That Asus firmware doesn't include the Intel CSME 19.0.0.1854v2.2, as that's due in Jan.

As discussed previously, it needs all 3 items, if that makes a difference who knows?

Intel MC 0x114
Intel CSME 19.0.0.1854v2.2
Windows 11 26100.2314+
 
Grim5 said:
Techpowerup have now tested the new 0x114 BIOS microcode and found that it makes no difference in gaming performance

www.techpowerup.com

Intel Arrow Lake 0x114 Microcode Already Out, No Significant Gains—We Tested

Motherboard vendor ASUS began rolling out UEFI firmware (BIOS) updates to its Intel Z890 motherboards that contain Intel's 0x114 Microcode update for Core Ultra "Arrow Lake-S" desktop processors. The new microcode was touted as bringing in performance gains to gaming workloads across the board...
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Those of us that actually watched the Hothardware stream the other night already knew this. It won't do anything without the CSME 19.0.0.1854v2.2 firmware update that is scheduled to be released in January.
 
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RSR said:
That first line made me laugh, PC hardware has always been the same over the years and won't change. People should buy whatever fits their needs and if it's just gaming the 9800X3D would be the go-to option and get the cheapest board (good) and 6000C30 RAM you can buy.

I run both out of curiosity and testing, to be honest, and the odd bit of benchwork :D

Arrowlake is pretty good at reducing power and heat. On my test setup, it really doesn't get hot at all. I have been thinking about sticking an air cooler on it to see how it performs, just one of those cheap Thermalright ones. In terms of power, I averaged ~114w over the day using it for work and that. As my replacement 9950X arrived yesterday I am in the process of building that out to see where that lands when using the same cooling setup and PSU (PSU can make quite a bit of difference at the wall from Gold to Titanium)

I'm not too fussed about my 14900KS, it motors along fine, if it does for whatever reason die I'll just replace it with what works for me best.
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Really excited for the 9950X average power consumption during 1 day.
 
chris_98 said:
Regarding the LGA 1851 platform - is it actually going to be a single generation one?
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As above no one really knows - a lot of stuff has been cancelled off the Intel roadmap and the design goals for future products on the roadmaps tends to suggest they would need a new socket which suggests LGA1851 will likely not be a long term supported platform.
 
That's all been updated, and it was fairly painless. I'll go and see how stuff works. I think I had some 3D Mark Baseline tests earlier in the thread, so I'll run through those again.

On a side note, those G.Skill CK Dimms does look quite nice no fafo just load and go.
 
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RSR said:
That's all been updated, and it was fairly painless. I'll go and see how stuff works. I think I had some 3D Mark Baseline tests earlier in the thread, so I'll run through those again.

On a side note, those G.Skill CK Dimms does look quite nice no fafo just load and go.
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Hopefully you see some nice improvements.
Was yours a beta bios or stable release?
 
Shaolin Chicken said:
Hopefully you see some nice improvements.
Was yours a beta bios or stable release?
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Shamino released it yesterday as a beta.

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ArrowLake Resources

i will use this as a thread to keep track of some Arrowlake/890 resources. OCpak OC guide/intro XTU APO ME Update Tool new beta bioses: (For these do not unzip and flash them as is) Apex Extreme Hero Hero BTF --------------------------------- Strix E Strix A Strix A-S Strix H Strix H-S Strix F...
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RSR said:
Shamino released it yesterday as a beta.

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ArrowLake Resources

i will use this as a thread to keep track of some Arrowlake/890 resources. OCpak OC guide/intro XTU APO ME Update Tool new beta bioses: (For these do not unzip and flash them as is) Apex Extreme Hero Hero BTF --------------------------------- Strix E Strix A Strix A-S Strix H Strix H-S Strix F...
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Thanks @RSR on my motherboard it is also a beta.
 
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