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Intel Core Ultra 9 285k 'Arrow Lake' Discussion/News ("15th gen") on LGA-1851

Gigabyte and MSI are now distributing the combination of Microcode Update 0x114 (MCU 114) and Intel Management Engine (ME) Firmware 1854 v2.2
Asrock pulled theirs, too many bugs I guess.
Asus bios's available on the RoG forums.

These are all betas.
 
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spotted some early slides this morning that looked interesting at 1080p I dont know much about the channel testing them

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spotted some early slides this morning that looked interesting at 1080p I dont know much about the channel testing them

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That does seem promising, albeit early days at this point.

Thanks for posting
 
Game said:
your welcome if they fix the problems thinking about a 265k but in no hurry , if they dont sort it can go to plan b
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Sounds like I plan that I could relate to.
Although I would have concerns investing into a 1851 board if there is only an intent to have one CPU revision made for it, excluding a refresh.
Socket 1700, maybe not meant, enjoyed quite a life......
 
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Vimes said:
Sounds like I plan that I could relate to.
Although I would have concerns investing into a 1851 board if there is only an intent to have one CPU revision made for it, excluding a refresh.
Socket 1700, maybe not meant, enjoyed quite a life......
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I tend to build once every 4-5 years ish on cpu and motherboard just swapping out the odd graphics card
 
Grim5 said:
Latest microcode has broken something again, gaming performance is down 18% in Cyberpunk and memory latency is up

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I'm not sure it's the MC 0x114, as Asus has released 1203 and 1301 with the MC 0x114, with the only difference being the ME version. However, you can see a latency difference between the two releases.

I'll need to pop my other kit back on that board to double-check.
 
ED209 said:
By the time Intel sort out these processors (If they ever can) they will be EOL and on to a new platform.

takes months for them to narrow down issues then months again to test a fix and then release it
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Well they do have 2 years according to some people here :D
 
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Safedisk has posted bios 1302 now :eek:

ROG MAXIMUS/STRIX Z890 Series Beta Bios 1302

01. Update ME to 19.0.0.1854v2.2 - hot fix
02. Improve system performance
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Game said:
spotted some early slides this morning that looked interesting at 1080p I dont know much about the channel testing them

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I have my doubts based on the post there - even with ridiculous memory and good tuning the 285K, even with updates, often barely troubles the 14900K in games let alone the 9800X3D and often struggles to convincingly pull away from the 14700K which is nearly half the price.

In fact in a lot of games even the 265K is begging questions of the 285K, though not so much in application work loads.
 
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Rroff said:
I have my doubts based on the post there - even with ridiculous memory and good tuning the 285K, even with updates, often barely troubles the 14900K in games let alone the 9800X3D and often struggles to convincingly pull away from the 14700K which is nearly half the price.

In fact in a lot of games even the 265K is begging questions of the 285K, though not so much in application work loads.
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Yes. The truth is that even the most stalwart intel fan is struggling with this one.

But I still think that the gaming performance, or lack of, is exaggerated by the testing methods of the reviewers. Few enthusiasts play at 1080P, and, I don't know about you, but I buy a new PC often enough that I will probably never be CPU bound. I think the reviews are scaring people away from the intel CPU's when they really would be fine for many people.
 
SpellowHouse said:
Yes. The truth is that even the most stalwart intel fan is struggling with this one.

But I still think that the gaming performance, or lack of, is exaggerated by the testing methods of the reviewers. Few enthusiasts play at 1080P, and, I don't know about you, but I buy a new PC often enough that I will probably never be CPU bound. I think the reviews are scaring people away from the intel CPU's when they really would be fine for many people.
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That is true - most people buying these CPUs will be playing at 1440p to UHD and not necessarily using a 4090 even - but that makes it even worse in some ways where the 285K doesn't distinguish itself from much cheaper CPUs while often the productivity uplift is not massive for the price difference.

But there are some games though where the AR CPUs fall down badly even at higher resolution - personally I think Intel has messed up badly removing HT.
 
Game said:
spotted some early slides this morning that looked interesting at 1080p I dont know much about the channel testing them

www.youtube.com

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If they perform the same at 4k does that mean there's no improvement because nobody uses 1080p?
 
SpellowHouse said:
Yes. The truth is that even the most stalwart intel fan is struggling with this one.

But I still think that the gaming performance, or lack of, is exaggerated by the testing methods of the reviewers. Few enthusiasts play at 1080P, and, I don't know about you, but I buy a new PC often enough that I will probably never be CPU bound. I think the reviews are scaring people away from the intel CPU's when they really would be fine for many people.
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If I plot a graph of 4k results next to the price for CPUs, and you're a logical person with no additional knowledge - you're going to go out and buy a 5 year old CPU to play your games at 4k, I mean why spend any more because all CPUs within that age perform the same right

That's the reason why reviewers try to tease out the full capabilities of the product. If we only look at 4k gaming, then the result is that the cpu is a flop, so the 285k is a terrible cpu because it's got no faster than 5 years ago right.

If we can produce the full capabilities of the cpu at 1080p then users can see which cpu will still be good in 5 years - and that's what buyers care about - people want pc parts that will be good for many years, so you have to show them what's the fastest for their money. It's not reviewers fault if the 285k is not the best value for the buyers money, the reviewers job is to show the viewer what is the best, not to be biased towards Intel so that Intel fans don't have a cry
 
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