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Intel Dual Core from £79 +VAT

Runningkid said:
just wondering how do these fair against a 3000+?

well, its quite a difficult comparison as this has to cores as opposed to the 3000+ 1, it will certainly be a lot fast at video encoding/mulyitasking, and be very nippy around windows, how ever the 3000+ will run cooler and be faster at single threaded games, and some other things - both clock well, i would say that with a decent board you could quite possibly hit 4ghz with an 805, whereas your more likely to get 2.6/2.8 max with a venice
 
yeah the intel seems a lot faster working in windows a bit slower for games compared to my amd rig ive decided i am going to save up for a new mobo and some ddr 2 , and ill get u them pictures later :)
 
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What do you lot think about the Gigabyte 8I945P-G, as I am buying one for £40 inc. from the MM... seen a few reviews and it went to ~220fsb which will be enough for the 805 and has voltage control upto 1.6vcore
 
id give anything a go to get the potential out this chip shame ill have to re apply the compound to my artic cooler never done that before but id be happy with decent fps in my games which i aint getting no way near at themo cos the cpu and mobos bottlenecks it all ill have to save for a few weeks again i owe my mum a bit of cash lol

EDIT: out of curiosity i put my agp 9800 pro in my system and i got straight in on the 166 fsb bene stable now for about 7 hours this is werid deffinately the mobo

 
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marcus_667 said:
id give anything a go to get the potential out this chip shame ill have to re apply the compound to my artic cooler never done that before but id be happy with decent fps in my games which i aint getting no way near at themo cos the cpu and mobos bottlenecks it all ill have to save for a few weeks again i owe my mum a bit of cash lol

EDIT: out of curiosity i put my agp 9800 pro in my system and i got straight in on the 166 fsb bene stable now for about 7 hours this is werid deffinately the mobo


I can't get mine past FSB of 166.
I know i'm missing something, do i need more volts?
could it be something to do with the memory as it is at 667 when running FSB at 166?
Any ideas?
 
What happens when you try to push it past 166fsb?

Does it still post?

It could be your memory limiting your overclock although I'd have thought it would overclock a little. You could try putting it on a divider just to see

If it boots but its unstable you could just need more volts to the CPU
 
ajgoodfellow said:
What happens when you try to push it past 166fsb?

Does it still post?

It could be your memory limiting your overclock although I'd have thought it would overclock a little. You could try putting it on a divider just to see

If it boots but its unstable you could just need more volts to the CPU

As soon as I go over 166 even by 1 (167), it doesn't boot then resets all the settings and boots with the default FSB of 133.

This is in Bios, the Easytune program doesn't work very well.

I don't mean to be funny but how do I put on a Divider?

Here are my mem details, etc
 
Looking at your SPD settings (the manufacturer's stated timings, shown to the far right of your screenshot) your memory is rated at 5-5-5-15 for DDR667

You currently have your memory set to 4-4-4-12 which is a fair bit below the stock timings. This would be why your memory isn't overclocking

Have a look in your BIOS for advanced memory timings or something similar. See if they're set to SPD. If so, it might be misreading the stock timings. If not, try setting them to SPD or manually set the following:

CAS: 5 clocks
RAS to CAS: 5 clocks
RAS Precharge: 5 clocks
TRas: 15 clocks

To put the memory on a divider tell BIOS that the memory is slower than it actually is. In otherwords, say that you have 266MHz memory (DDR532) instead of 333MHz memory. I'd try slackening the timings first though
 
RC21 said:
As soon as I go over 166 even by 1 (167), it doesn't boot then resets all the settings and boots with the default FSB of 133.

This is in Bios, the Easytune program doesn't work very well.

I don't mean to be funny but how do I put on a Divider?

Here are my mem details, etc

Try +0.2 volts on the ram m8 its good ram what you have seen reviews of it doing 700mhz + with extra volts just beat the geil that im using in the review which i had to the same +0.2 (2.0v as opposed to 1.8v normal) when i was using the same gigabyte board @ 173fsb.

goodluck
 
ajgoodfellow said:
Looking at your SPD settings (the manufacturer's stated timings, shown to the far right of your screenshot) your memory is rated at 5-5-5-15 for DDR667

You currently have your memory set to 4-4-4-12 which is a fair bit below the stock timings. This would be why your memory isn't overclocking

Have a look in your BIOS for advanced memory timings or something similar. See if they're set to SPD. If so, it might be misreading the stock timings. If not, try setting them to SPD or manually set the following:

CAS: 5 clocks
RAS to CAS: 5 clocks
RAS Precharge: 5 clocks
TRas: 15 clocks

To put the memory on a divider tell BIOS that the memory is slower than it actually is. In otherwords, say that you have 266MHz memory (DDR532) instead of 333MHz memory. I'd try slackening the timings first though


Great! Thanks for the advice!
With those changes I now have:



Anything else I can try to push it further?
Dougsnake said:
Try +0.2 volts on the ram m8 its good ram what you have seen reviews of it doing 700mhz + with extra volts just beat the geil that im using in the review which i had to the same +0.2 (2.0v as opposed to 1.8v normal) when i was using the same gigabyte board @ 173fsb.

goodluck
Are you sure about increasing the volts?
 
volts won't hurt that ram, 2.0 is the normal ddr's can handle and bet they can handle even more ;)
Also these rams are supposed to run 667 using CL4 even if cpu-z says their default at 333mhz are CL5 5-5-15 which are just pathetic. You probably loose even more performance by CL5 5-5-15 and 10fsb's more than with CL4 4-4-12, so keep the timings tight for better performance.

try to increase vcore a bit more... set it to 1.45, tight timings back using 2.1vdimm (if system behaves same as before then your mobo or ram is not enough) see if it works alright otherwise try 1:1 divider (ie set bios ram ratio to 266) to see if ram or mobo limits you.

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sorry i confused you with previous user who has via chipset, ignore my previous post :p

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Byron said:
volts won't hurt that ram, 2.0 is the normal ddr's can handle and bet they can handle even more ;)
Also these rams are supposed to run 667 using CL4 even if cpu-z says their default at 333mhz are CL5 5-5-15 which are just pathetic. You probably loose even more performance by CL5 5-5-15 and 10fsb's more than with CL4 4-4-12, so keep the timings tight for better performance.

try to increase vcore a bit more... set it to 1.45, tight timings back using 2.1vdimm (if system behaves same as before then your mobo or ram is not enough) see if it works alright otherwise try 1:1 divider (ie set bios ram ratio to 266) to see if ram or mobo limits you.

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sorry i confused you with previous user who has via chipset, ignore my previous post :p

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Ignore it or give it a go?
Looks like good info to me.
What to do?
 
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