Intel has a Pretty Big Problem..

[WARburton]

At the end of the day, a buyer has to look at reviews of what they actually want run.

god yes. i should still 100% still have my 5700x3d(my 13900k worked out free but still..)

 

[jigger]

have AMD have no security flaws....


lol just lol

Ah, one of those why buy 4 cores when 24 cores will do types.

 

[Rroff]

if your still gaming at 1080p the CPU is very important, but at 1440 or 4k i feel 11th gen / 5000 is still fine and i think i lot will still be using older.
so many people put too much focus into the CPU, you see system with 7800x3d/9800x3d but a 3090...

One of the things which seems to have been buried lately - anything sub 4090 at 1440p or 4K you see very little difference CPU wise, only really the 9800X3D with a 4090 shows much difference at higher resolution/settings compared to other CPUs and even then outside of a few select games it is often not very meaningful. I've had some time to compare a 7800X3D with a 4080 (non-Super) with my 14700K with 4080 Super and for any realistic gaming scenario, unless you are trying to be an eSport pro 1080p high refresh gamer, the difference is within margin of error and the 14700K destroys the 7800X3D for pretty much anything outside of gaming unless the power use and thermals really bother you - which actually isn't as bad as the reviews make out when you measure power use at the wall.

EDIT: On a related note was watching someone benchmark a 9800X3D, 14900KS, 285K and 7900X3D the other day and the 7900X3D really isn't a good choice - in a fair few recent games despite the average FPS not being that far behind the 14900 the minimum FPS was all over the place and in some games 1% low was averaging nearly half the other CPUs and the 285K was sometimes noticeably less smooth than the 9800X3D even when it was putting up similar numbers - not sure what was going on there as the minimum FPS wasn't showing anything especially bad.

 

[WARburton]

Ah, one of those why buy 4 cores when 24 cores will do types.

i have 32 cores... when 8 would do... i literally just said that in the post one up from yours

 

[WARburton]

One of the things which seems to have been buried lately - anything sub 4090 at 1440p or 4K you see very little difference CPU wise, only really the 9800X3D with a 4090 shows much difference at higher resolution/settings compared to other CPUs and even then outside of a few select games it is often not very meaningful. I've had some time to compare a 7800X3D with a 4080 (non-Super) with my 14700K with 4080 Super and for any realistic gaming scenario, unless you are trying to be an eSport pro 1080p high refresh gamer, the difference is within margin of error and the 14700K destroys the 7800X3D for pretty much anything outside of gaming unless the power use and thermals really bother you - which actually isn't as bad as the reviews make out when you measure power use at the wall.

i slumbered over a 13900kf and decided to have a go/play and i have be be honest in games i see 60/65c its not a bad as people make out.. if you overclocking and of pushing it limits yes its a monster but people compare it to a locked cpu the 7800x3d.
looking at the 9800x3d's power usage and thermals when overclocked(ingame) under gaming load there about the same.

 

[Rroff]

i slumbered over a 13900kf and decided to have a go/play and i have be be honest in games i see 60/65c its not a bad as people make out.. if you overclocking and of pushing it limits yes its a monster but people compare it to a locked cpu the 7800x3d.
looking at the 9800x3d's power usage and thermals when overclocked(ingame) under gaming load there about the same.

I generally see about 70C, sometime a little higher, on my 14700K when gaming - but that is with air cooling and my fans on silent profile. Obviously how fast you can remove the heat is the factor in temperatures there rather than how much energy is being wasted as heat.

 

[jigger]

i have 32 cores... when 8 would do... i literally just said that in the post one up from yours

Cool, so 31 can sit idol?

I have about 200 and literally need more.

 

[Daytrader]

gaming? what GPU. friends son still have his old 6700 with 6600xt gaming happy.
he was going to switch it out but just not needed hahah.

my little girl as a 2500k and a GTX970 but she only play roblox

4K gaming still, with my rtx asus strix 2080 super, monitor only 60hz, so not big frames i need.

 

[LePhuronn]

Oh God, I've not seen an "but but but IPC" argument since Ryzen 3000 was dunking all over Intel's product stack in real world use cases.

Yes, the 9900K was the very tippy-top CPU if you wanted the ultimate gaming system, and nothing AMD had could touch that. But that was all Intel had to shout about, literally everything else was dominated by Ryzen 3000; power, efficiency, core count, productivity, mainstream gaming, price. Intel had nothing that could touch the 3600 as a real world product in real world usage, it was the go-to CPU. 3900X and 3950X humiliated what was left of Intel's HEDT after Threadripper had run roughshod.

Then Ryzen 5000 just curb stomped them.

 

[humbug]

Oh God, I've not seen an "but but but IPC" argument since Ryzen 3000 was dunking all over Intel's product stack in real world use cases.

Yes, the 9900K was the very tippy-top CPU if you wanted the ultimate gaming system, and nothing AMD had could touch that. But that was all Intel had to shout about, literally everything else was dominated by Ryzen 3000; power, efficiency, core count, productivity, mainstream gaming, price. Intel had nothing that could touch the 3600 as a real world product in real world usage, it was the go-to CPU. 3900X and 3950X humiliated what was left of Intel's HEDT after Threadripper had run roughshod.

Then Ryzen 5000 just curb stomped them.

Tiz why i bought a Ryzen 5800X and not a 10900K, i still have it.......