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Intel i5 v AMD range

The cost is marginal a year. Thats a lame argument.
Dude, if I can save money and not notice any performance drop why pay more . .

People waste more money on other energy cost's than they do turning on a heavily overclocked PC.
Your an antique mate, the whole industry is changing to more power effiecient hardware, if no one gave a **** why would they do this?

The answer is because its important to a lot of people, maybe not you . .

Gaming for a few hours and then turning their PC's off.:p
Like you know how people use there PC?

Like having a chip at 3Ghz or a chip at 4GHz means anything to most real-world games who play in high res! :D
 
I can get more computing power for the same money with intel than I can get with AMD.
Lets see your spec please?

How many times do you need to be asked? :confused:

Thats why the amjority of enthusiast's are running intel rigs now
Yeah run with the pack, very easyrider! ;)

I'll happily buy AMD when its the faster option.
You really are out of your depth easy, your like an enthusiast from yesteryear (2007/2008).

If I need some home cinema advice I will be sure to ask you for help, sadly you don't know much anymore about modern hardware . . .

Personally I'm not interested in parting with more money than I have to, who cares if a chip can run at 4GHz or 4.5GHz, it's really only a number if your not using software than can benefit from it . . .

I seriously can't believe how you be so serious about all this stuff! . . .take a chill pill and get spending! :p
 
Dude, if I can save money and not notice any performance drop why pay more . .

No perfromance drop in playing games? I don't play games I want a Studio PC running 128+ audio tracks running audio filters in real time...Not play wow.

Your an antique mate, the whole industry is changing to more power effiecient hardware, if no one gave a **** why would they do this?

You are missing the point. Power saved at stock is still power saved when overclocked..Its all relative

Like you know how people use there PC?

Like having a chip at 3Ghz or a chip at 4GHz means anything to most real-world games who play in high res! :D

The cost of runnig a chip at 3ghz rather than 4ghz will cost exactly how much more again?

So much I wouldn't even notice it on the electricty bill.

Dude, if I can max my hardware and not notice any extra cost's why run stock?:D
 
Lets see your spec please?

How many times do you need to be asked? :confused:

I asked you first remember? :p

Yeah run with the pack, very easyrider! ;)

eh?:confused:

You really are out of your depth easy, your like an enthusiast from yesteryear (2007/2008).

Hmm..Thats two insults in as many sentances...Big Wayne running out of ideas? :D

If I need some home cinema advice I will be sure to ask you for help, sadly you don't know much anymore about modern hardware . . .

I'm running a highly power efficient WHS in my home cinema thats on 24/7 power usage is important to me in this scenario..3 insults.....

Personally I'm not interested in parting with more money than I have to, who cares if a chip can run at 4GHz or 4.5GHz, it's really only a number if your not using software than can benefit from it . . .

And if you are running software that can use the power what then?

I seriously can't believe how you be so serious about all this stuff! . . .take a chill pill and get spending! :p


Not until i see the clocking potential of i3
 
I am probably just going to annoy people by saying this but I do mean it in nicest way.

When I was putting my spec together a lot of people were saying to go down the Intel route as some benchmark said it was faster, even though it would cost more.
The problem is that I don’t sit at home running benchmarks so why would I want to know about them?
Not only that, no one could justify spending extra on the Intel when I’m not going overclock it.
So, can you tell me how long it takes me to convert my copy of "The Shawshank Redemption" from MKV to AVI, because I would like to know if we would really see a difference when you are at home and I am at home and the two computers are not next to each other.

What I am trying to say is that I don’t mind sitting down for an extra few seconds waiting for it to finish because I know I spent less money on my system and that is worth the extra 2-3 mins a year that it will take me to do what I need it to. :)
 
People waste more money on other energy cost's than they do turning on a heavily overclocked PC. Gaming for a few hours and then turning their PC's off .:p

No perfromance drop in playing games? I don't play games I want a Studio PC running 128+ audio tracks running audio filters in real time...Not play wow.
Well your certainly making as much sense as usual! :)

You are missing the point. Power saved at stock is still power saved when overclocked..Its all relative
Your got a lot of ground to cover, its been along time since you had some modern hardware to evaluate yourself . .

It's obviously important to your self esteem to have a 4.5GHz chip but is it really such a big deal? . . . is it worth spending extra money on>

What benefit (apart from ePeen) does it bring to you personally?

The cost of runnig a chip at 3ghz rather than 4ghz will cost exactly how much more again?
The benfits of running a chip at 4GHz instead of 3GHz is exactly what again?

So much I wouldn't even notice it on the electricty bill
Really? . . .you an energy efficiency expert now as well as an overclocking and hardware advice expert, hehe! :D

Dude, if I can max my hardware and not notice any extra cost's why run stock?:D
If I can have a super fast computer that doesn't cost much to build and it doesn't cost much to run why do I need to max my hardware again? (aside from a bit of good old ePeen and benching of course?) . . .
 
Well your certainly making as much sense as usual! :)


I was talking about gamers who do not have their pc's on 24/7




Your got a lot of ground to cover, its been along time since you had some modern hardware to evaluate yourself . .

You don't even know what is under the hood in my WHS so button it:p

It's obviously important to your self esteem to have a 4.5GHz chip but is it really such a big deal? . . . is it worth spending extra money on>

What benefit (apart from ePeen) does it bring to you personally?

Its not about self esteem...even thouigh you want it to be. Its about speed


The benfits of running a chip at 4GHz instead of 3GHz is exactly what again?

Er.....More speed...a faster computer?:D

Really? . . .you an energy efficiency expert now as well as an overclocking and hardware advice expert, hehe! :D

Its was only a few months back when your Sig said INtel challange everything:p Nuff said

If I can have a super fast computer that doesn't cost much to build and it doesn't cost much to run why do I need to max my hardware again? (aside from a bit of good old ePeen and benching of course?) . . .

How much cheaper is it really though? How much cheaper?
 
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I asked you first remember? :p
Really? I thought I asked you 3 hours before you asked me?
So if you were to put an order in today at OcUK for some new kit what would you get and how much would it cost (inc free shipping and pre-orders allowed etc)
7th Jan 2010, 15:05
Spec me an AMD machine that can be clocked to the max on air that can beat an i3 and mobo combo clocked to 4.5ghz on air for 200?
7th Jan 2010, 18:54

I can get more computing power for the same money with intel than I can get with AMD
no I don't think you can actually! :)

Hmm..Thats two insults in as many sentances...Big Wayne running out of ideas? :D
There is no insult there? . . .you simply don't know, at least you don't know what is relevent to anyone but yourself . . .

The cost is marginal a year. Thats a lame argument
I'm running a highly power efficient WHS in my home cinema thats on 24/7 power usage is important to me in this scenario..3 insults.....


And if you are running software that can use the power what then?
This is the point easy, and this is the mistake you are making with yourgeneral sweeping statements, you simply do not understand what peoples needs are, you assume everyone uses a computer like you do!

If you were to phrase your posts differently and more personally (i.e High Ghz are useful to me because), instead you just blast your opinion out onto the interweb like its relevant to all man and beast!
 
I have more than one PC

The WHS is on 24/7 so power usage is an important factor. IN THIS SCENARIO

The Main PC is not on 24/7 so electrical power is not as important when it is being used as the more speed I get is better.

What don't you get?
 
The cost is marginal a year
The cost of runnig a chip at 3ghz rather than 4ghz will cost exactly how much more again?

So much I wouldn't even notice it on the electricty bill.
How much cheaper is it really though? How much cheaper?

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You tell me mate, you seem to be an expert all of a sudden! :p

How much would 64 watts cost you a year based on a kWh cost of £0.14p
 
WOW :eek: I think you are trying to read too much into what I am saying here there is no detrimental meaning to the word kiddies replace with family of CPU's if you wish.

I will reword/rephrase the question.

If you take an i5/mobo/memory/HS bundle lets say the one OCUK bundle currently sell @ £510 and given the other components of the system would be the same for an AMD system can you make an AMD combo that will push 4Ghz which would work like the above bundle and could/would last its 12 month warranty period.

I am a gamer mostly amongst a few other things and in all honestly I doubt very much many people worry about the electricity bill. I would also say the vast majority of gamers who come to these forums want to build a system to X price (there or there about), I would also go as far to say they want to over clock to optimise that purchase for their gaming experience.

I have a C2D E6600 (2.4Ghz) and have been running it without major problems (apart from RAM) at 3.2Ghz there is a real world gaming difference from the 2.4Ghz standard amchine and I happy with the "free" (lecy bill aside) boost in performance it gives my ageing system.
 
Its was only a few months back when your Sig said INtel challange everything:p Nuff said
No, my sig has always said the same thing, it's an independent statement, a life moto if you will! :D

The allowed single image has changed from Intel Core 2 duo to AMD Athlon II because thats the hardware I endorse . . .AMD don't have as big a marketing budget as Intel so if I can help draw attention to what I believe is great and affordable hardware then why not?

Er.....More speed...a faster computer?:D
A faster computer for who?

You? . . .Me? . . Him? . . .who?

I've got a fast computer thanks, you should get one too! :cool:
 
You tell me mate, you seem to be an expert all of a sudden! :p

How much would 64 watts cost you a year based on a kWh cost of £0.14p

Who runs their CPU's at 100% stress full load 24/7? :p

That 64 watts is based on full load.

even when gaming CPU's rarely run full load on all cores.

NEXT :D
 
No, my sig has always said the same thing, it's an independent statement, a life moto if you will! :D

The allowed single image has changed from Intel Core 2 duo to AMD Athlon II because thats the hardware I endorse . . .AMD don't have as big a marketing budget as Intel so if I can help draw attention to what I believe is great and affordable hardware then why not?

Oh Dear how sad....Do you think AMD care about you? Why do you care about them? They are a buisness and you are a consumer.

Grow UP!:mad:

A faster computer for who?

You? . . .Me? . . Him? . . .who?

I've got a fast computer thanks, you should get one too! :cool:

Me
 
Thanks for those insults wayne
easy, Historically you have choosen hardware that goes with consensus, you are very concerned about what other people think, you canvas opinion on hardware like no one else on these forums.

You lack the nads to buy into something that hasn't been proven and proven again. I would say you lack confidence in your ability to choose good hardware.

even right now even though you are banging on about how for £200 you could build a 4.5Ghz capable i3 machine, and how its the only choice your gonna sit there like a lemon waiting for someone who is competant to buy the hardware first, do the testing first befoire you will feel confident to make a purchase!
 
I am a gamer mostly amongst a few other things and in all honestly I doubt very much many people worry about the electricity bill. I would also say the vast majority of gamers who come to these forums want to build a system to X price (there or there about), I would also go as far to say they want to over clock to optimise that purchase for their gaming experience.

Exactly,

Wayne is pimping AMD hardware for free... due to them only having an ickle advertising budget to help them out...

I have heard it all now.

:D:D:D:D:D
 
Who runs their CPU's at 100% stress full load 24/7? :p
Sorry, who needs a 4.5GHz processor 24/7?

That 64 watts is based on full load
It's the first example that came to mind, now please do the maths?

If you don;t like that example make one up of your own choosing but . . .please do the maths?

Can you do the maths easy? :confused:

No, your going to answer the question! :)

Your the expert who rebukes my mention of my personaly interest in power savings, your told me it doesn't matter . . .doesn;t matter to who? .. you . . .me? . . him? . . .who? :cool:
 
You lack the nads to buy into something that hasn't been proven and proven again. I would say you lack confidence in your ability to choose good hardware.

You think INTEL are evil and your running slower hardware to make statement.

When in fact the companies couln't give two hoops what hardware you run :D


even right now even though you are banging on about how for £200 you could build a 4.5Ghz capable i3 machine, and how its the only choice your gonna sit there like a lemon waiting for someone who is competant to buy the hardware first, do the testing first befoire you will feel confident to make a purchase!


I have done enough BETA testing in my time..now let someone else have the fun...Let them have a chance.I'm happy to sit back and await results.
 
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