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Intel i9-10X processor availablity?

Coojeekitten said:
Crikey, it's like a mafia in here!

So I'm not allowed to like Intel? :confused:
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Like what you want; we're just giving you advise that Intel probably aren't the smart choice to spend your hard earned on.

It really doesn't pay to be brand loyal.
 
Coojeekitten said:
Crikey, it's like a mafia in here!

So I'm not allowed to like Intel? :confused:
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You can like a company, but does not make sense to buy a product simply because you like the company, more so with the other offerings on the table that squeeze intel HEDT stuff in many areas. I have a pretty blazing cherry picked 7980xe that Overclock like a champ and it’s a monster, but that was brought years back, with the landscape as it is now depending on your workload makes not sense to simply only look at intel.
 
If you game and use Adobe a lot, the 10980XE overclocked looks fantastic. GN's review has it beating the [email protected] while at 4.9Ghz (and as Steve said, it could do 5-5.1 in non-AVX loads). In the traditional realms of the 'overclocker', i.e. game benchmarks, 3dmark, etc. it's likely to keep Intel the crown of the 'best' cpu.

In terms of 4D Cinema, 7zip, etc. the throughput of the 3970X is excellent but they aren't comparing it against the W-3175X, which is technically top Intel desktop CPU.

I'll certainly pick a 10980XE over anything in the AMD line, though it's certainly closer than it was.
 
Maldoror said:
If you game and use Adobe a lot, the 10980XE overclocked looks fantastic. GN's review has it beating the [email protected] while at 4.9Ghz (and as Steve said, it could do 5-5.1 in non-AVX loads). In the traditional realms of the 'overclocker', i.e. game benchmarks, 3dmark, etc. it's likely to keep Intel the crown of the 'best' cpu.

In terms of 4D Cinema, 7zip, etc. the throughput of the 3970X is excellent but they aren't comparing it against the W-3175X, which is technically top Intel desktop CPU.

I'll certainly pick a 10980XE over anything in the AMD line, though it's certainly closer than it was.
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And using well over 500watts of power as well - far far more than the entire AMD range. Also that $3000 Xeon? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N29jTOjBZrw Its slower than the new AMD chips in a lot of work flows (compare to the latest GN video so apples to apples useage)
 
Thank you, I very much appreciate advice from this forum & would be lost without it. However in this thread, I was just asking availability. If I had been asking which chip I should get, I would definitely be taking everything on board. I don't want to upset people, but I just feel that AMD is a touch less unreliable. I've never dealt with them, I don't understand their systems. All my computers have been Intel, they generally have solid reliability. To be fair, the review didn't infer Intel was rubbish - just not as quick in most situations. I need my pc to be 100% reliable. Zero trouble, zero downloading updates to fix problems with a new product. I've some concerns about the i9-10x also being new, but it seems along the same tech as the i9-9x.

I still don't really understand what an HEDT is.

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I only do light gaming. At most, something like No Man's Sky, otherwise light stuff to relax like Two Point Hospital. I'd not intend to overclock & would be using air cooling.

Main usage: Premier Pro editing 4k H.264 & H.265, in future, 6k ProRes & Cinema DNG. Lightroom/Photoshop. Maybe After Effects in future.
 
Harlequin said:
And using well over 500watts of power as well - far far more than the entire AMD range. Also that $3000 Xeon? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N29jTOjBZrw Its slower than the new AMD chips in a lot of work flows (compare to the latest GN video so apples to apples useage)
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It's pulling [email protected] vs. [email protected] on the new Threadripper. So it is using more power but not much more. But then I'm not one to watch my power bill; I couldn't care less if it pulled 1000W, as long as I can cool it. This isn't a price-performance chip.

I agree the 3970X does pull ahead in some workflows. However, I'd say the 10980XE excels in a lot of key areas that overclockers care about: more people use the Adobe suite, Photoshop, etc. than 4D Cinema. And a lot of HEDT is just high end gaming.
 
Coojeekitten said:
Zero trouble, zero downloading updates to fix problems with a new product.
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Ironically you will be doing this more often than you think, to fix issues with vulnerabilities in the base architecture of the product, which in-turn has an effect on the performance.

With regards to the stock this was solely a paper launch, and the stock will be available sometime in December or early January '20 depending on if you are still going for the 10920X or something else.
 
Coojeekitten said:
Thank you, I very much appreciate advice from this forum & would be lost without it. However in this thread, I was just asking availability. If I had been asking which chip I should get, I would definitely be taking everything on board. I don't want to upset people, but I just feel that AMD is a touch less unreliable. I've never dealt with them, I don't understand their systems. All my computers have been Intel, they generally have solid reliability. To be fair, the review didn't infer Intel was rubbish - just not as quick in most situations. I need my pc to be 100% reliable. Zero trouble, zero downloading updates to fix problems with a new product. I've some concerns about the i9-10x also being new, but it seems along the same tech as the i9-9x.

I still don't really understand what an HEDT is.

Edit:

I only do light gaming. At most, something like No Man's Sky, otherwise light stuff to relax like Two Point Hospital. I'd not intend to overclock & would be using air cooling.

Main usage: Premier Pro editing 4k H.264 & H.265, in future, 6k ProRes & Cinema DNG. Lightroom/Photoshop. Maybe After Effects in future.
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HEDT just stands for high end desktop. Usually was a more clear division, X299 is Intel's HEDT platform while X399 (and now the TR40x) is AMD's. Of course there is now a fair bit of overlap like 3950x rivalling Intel's HEDT stuff and even AMD's older 2xxx TR stuff which is still on sale.

Current AMD stuff is pretty reliable and would not have a cause for concern. Similarly though, I fully expect the i9-10x stuff will be pretty stable given its a revision of stuff that has been out for years and is pretty solid in its own right. There is some security stuff apparently with the Intel stuff and Intel have baked some silicon level fix's into i9-10x vs the other stuff which amusingly seems to have some impact on performance (even if its slight it seems).
 
Yeah, to be fair the new AMD Threadripper looks brilliant but it is a new motherboard as well and sometimes you have to be an enthusiastic fiddler to get AMD running sweet, rather than just wanting something drop in and go.

Depending on what you do I still think the 9900 and 3950 are good bang for buck at these lofty heights compared to the 10980 or the threadrippers.

It's so hard to give judgement because it depends what you do and how much you do of it on the software side and whether you are quite happy for it to run along say encoding whilst you do something else.

Nice to have such a wide variety of choice though now !
 
Gandahar said:
Yeah, to be fair the new AMD Threadripper looks brilliant but it is a new motherboard as well and sometimes you have to be an enthusiastic fiddler to get AMD running sweet, rather than just wanting something drop in and go.

Depending on what you do I still think the 9900 and 3950 are good bang for buck at these lofty heights compared to the 10980 or the threadrippers.

It's so hard to give judgement because it depends what you do and how much you do of it on the software side and whether you are quite happy for it to run along say encoding whilst you do something else.

Nice to have such a wide variety of choice though now !
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GN have said it was drop in and go this time with AMD - also Intel new cpu isnt new at all, its just a refresh / rename of the 7980XE. If your gaming, you dont want HEDT, as an R5 3600 is more than enough to push an RTX 2080Ti
 
Coojeekitten said:
Thank you, I very much appreciate advice from this forum & would be lost without it. However in this thread, I was just asking availability. If I had been asking which chip I should get, I would definitely be taking everything on board. I don't want to upset people, but I just feel that AMD is a touch less unreliable.
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Get out your pitchforks boys!


:p
 
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