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Intel launches Core-X series with up to 18-cores for 1999 USD

From a personal/benchmarking point of view this platform will be amazing, single core benchmarking speed demon in the shape of the 7740K or a multi core monster, win win
 
given the current exchange rates is perfectly sensible to convert the $ price straight over to the £ cost inc vat....

so...

a 4c4t 16 pci-e lane gpu on the Hedt platform for circa £240 (what the **** are you thinking intel?)

a circa £600 cpu with 28 pci-e lanes and no doubt hobbled in other ways (the 5930k/ 6850k at this price point or lower had 40 lanes)


...non soldered IHS


so much fail intel so much fail..... If this is the best you can do on the hedt platform I'm holding onto my haswell-e setup on a plx board for a few more years and hoping AMD can keep up momentum with their cpu's so I can go back to an amd setup
 
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Wouldn't worry about it. These parts aren't going to come in at the same price range you've just paid for Z270/7700K anyway.
 
Looks like motherboard manufacturers will have a pretty hard time designing their boards: http://www.anandtech.com/show/11461...new-highend-desktop-platform-and-x299-chipset

One point being the PCIe lanes (as there's 16, 28 or 44 depending on the CPU):
  • If a user has a 44 lane CPU in place with two storage drive, the GPU slots can move to x16/x16 or x16/x8/x8, leaving 12 PCIe lanes for the network controller and storage.
  • If a user has a 28 lane CPU in place with a storage drive, the GPU slots can move to x8/x8 with 12 lanes for network controller and storage
  • If a user has a 16 lane CPU in place with one storage drive, the GPU slot can be x8 with the network controller and storage active, or if the GPU slot(s) is x16 or x8/x8, then the network controller and PCIe storage is disabled, unless muxes and quick switches are equipped on the motherboard to carry the signal around such that the PCIe storage moves to chipset based, or defaults to SATA only, or etc etc etc
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So depending on what CPU you pick, you may lose features.

RAM is a bit of a mess as well. While SL-X should be fine with all DRAM slots in use, using KL-X will actually only work with 4 certain RAM slots for dual channel.
 
18 cores might not be cheap, but Intel are cutting their price significantly over their equivalent Broadwell generation Xeon: https://ark.intel.com/products/91755/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2697-v4-45M-Cache-2_30-GHz A quick search finds a few of the usual UK retailers currently selling it for £2650-2750.

It'll definitely be interesting to see clock speeds on the higher core count lines, typically the equivalent Xeons are clocked far lower. I can't imagine a ~2.5GHz base clock persuading too many doubters to reach for their wallets!

Regardless we're finally we're seeing Intel having to react to AMD for the first time in years - lets hope it continues for the next few product cycles and we start to see improvements beyond the 5% per year nonsense.
 
Colour me interested.. until I see converted prices. 7820 seems the logical jump from a 4 core, 6 cores always looked like an interim to me. The price though, $599 is obviously going to be £500+ for us.
 
Orcvader said:
Looks like motherboard manufacturers will have a pretty hard time designing their boards: http://www.anandtech.com/show/11461...new-highend-desktop-platform-and-x299-chipset

One point being the PCIe lanes (as there's 16, 28 or 44 depending on the CPU):

So depending on what CPU you pick, you may lose features.

RAM is a bit of a mess as well. While SL-X should be fine with all DRAM slots in use, using KL-X will actually only work with 4 certain RAM slots for dual channel.
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Wow, If these motherboards don't sell well, motherboard makers are going to be annoyed. With threadripper on the horizon i think motherboard makers are going to have a hard time make there money back on these.
 
esoteric said:
Colour me interested.. until I see converted prices. 7820 seems the logical jump from a 4 core, 6 cores always looked like an interim to me. The price though, $599 is obviously going to be £500+ for us.
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It's not worth the price tbh. If you only game then the mainstream coffeelake chip would be a much better buy and performer then the 7850. The first 6 core as well
 
esoteric said:
Colour me interested.. until I see converted prices. 7820 seems the logical jump from a 4 core, 6 cores always looked like an interim to me. The price though, $599 is obviously going to be £500+ for us.
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As of late, with taxes and so on a price of $599 will mean £599.
 
i wanted a 10C/20T part to replace my 6 core/12 Threads, but if £1000 is correct i'm jumping to AMD. even if Perf is slighty worse it could be much cheaper specially when my upgrade cycle is so short.
 
AllBodies said:
Don't forget they've also gimped the PCI lanes vs Threadripper. And aren't soldering them either...
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Indeed, I cannot believe that they made the $599 chip support only 28 PCI-E lanes on the HEDT platform, I will certainly be looking to Threadripper with its 64 PCI-E lanes, for very high end builds as Intel have just priced themselves out of the market for my liking. Another $400 to unlock the extra PCI-E lanes and gain 2 more cores, yes 66% more expensive! Total fail.

I'm not even going to talk about the **** poor decision that is using TIM on the IHS.
 
Journey said:
Indeed, I cannot believe that they made the $599 chip support only 28 PCI-E lanes on the HEDT platform, I will certainly be looking to Threadripper with its 64 PCI-E lanes, for very high end builds as Intel have just priced themselves out of the market for my liking. Another $400 to unlock the extra PCI-E lanes and gain 2 more cores, yes 66% more expensive! Total fail.

I'm not even going to talk about the **** poor decision that is using TIM on the IHS.
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IMO 'HEDT' in today's standards should allow for:
  • 2 GPUs at full speed
  • 2 M.2 drives at full speed
  • 1 other x4 card (e.g. fast wireless card, high-end audio card)
That should be considered the bare minimum of the potential of the platform (of course not everyone would use all that, but it should be possible). And that would be a minimum off 44 lanes if I've counted correctly there?

So 28 is a bit of a joke IMO, even if it's on the lower end CPUs (why are there even 'lower end' CPUs on an HEDT platform?)
 
See the E-tailers/Retailers have taken a big axe to Broadwell-E chip pricing, some places have chips priced less than 7700K's etc. I can smell a lot of cheap X99 board incoming too. :)
 
Great to see AMD having a strong impact on Intel through this cycle. It looks like they have rapidly brought in server chips to the HEDT market to give the 16 and 18 thread options.

I don't really understand why they have kept the PCIe Lane shenanigans - it seems to be an utter pain in the arse for the engineers just to hold marketing segmentation - unless there is a reason for it I am missing.
 
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