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Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000

~>Dg<~ said:
the thing is most people only do one socket change per upgrade. realistically most people even on amd will buy one cpu and mobo then change the lot again when its upgrade time.
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I'm not so sure dude. Just thinking about it my nf7-s saw at least 4 cpus and on am3 I had several before the 1090t. Before which I had socket 775 which only saw one cpu and that was a q6600. Now I'm on tr4 and its seen one cpu but will very likely see a second.

I also know people on the other side of the fence who had the dual core e6xxx cpus and moved to q6600 and q9xxx cpus. And then you have people who bought into things like 1150 i3 platforms and upgraded later. Socket longevity and a good amount of products on the socket is a good thing from both vendors.

I think what I'm saying is you tend to change socket when you need more performance that isnt available to you on the socket you are on or if there are features more readily available which are important to you on a competing product/socket. If you have the option to stay on the same socket/board and get a decent performance uplift then that's a bonus.
 
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tamzzy said:
... get away with the 2500k/3570k which was a £150 cpu - so it's not too far different, "if you are just into gaming"
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3570k was £190 on release day and afaik never dropped. I don't feel I could have spent less than the £50 I did on a cooler.

£240 adjusted for £/$ and inflation is very close to the £320 3700x.
 
Hotwired said:
I mean what are they going to do? Price to compete with the product they stopped making?

2000 will leech some sales but they will fade out of the market eventually.
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Ryzen 7 2700 for £155-£180, which can be OCed, is the best buy and no Ryzen 7 3000 will be good unless AMD put the price around 200 quid, as well.

Zernath said:
So, regarding AMD becoming more expensive, prices seem in line with the Zen+ release....
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Ryzen 3000 does give only small IPC increase and no MHz increase whatsoever, Ryzen 7 2700X vs 3700X is only 13% IPC increase and 0-50 MHz more.

This is the type of update that intel has been widely known to offer for a decade before March 2017.

i7-6700K -> i7-7700K is the same performance update.

No one in their right mind will or should upgrade from 2700 to 3700X.
 
4K8KW10 said:
Ryzen 7 2700 for £155-£180, which can be OCed, is the best buy and no Ryzen 7 3000 will be good unless AMD put the price around 200 quid, as well.



Ryzen 3000 does give only small IPC increase and no MHz increase whatsoever, Ryzen 7 2700X vs 3700X is only 13% IPC increase and 0-50 MHz more.

This is the type of update that intel has been widely known to offer for a decade before March 2017.

i7-6700K -> i7-7700K is the same performance update.

No one in their right mind will or should upgrade from 2700 to 3700X.
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You're talking out of your rear, the IPC increase from 6700K to 7700K was 0 They are the same CPU.

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humbug said:
The 9600K stutters like a skateboard down a flight of stairs in a couple AAA titles at 1080P on an RTX 2080TI, i know one might say that's an unreasonable setup but when talking about longevity it's not, it's going the same way all the other i5's have, the 7700K isn't quite there yet, why? SMT.

The 9700K, a £380 CPU has two more cores, threads, 8 of them, the 8700K will outlive the 9700K as useful high end gaming CPU, hell my 3600 will outlive the 9700K.

The 8700K was and still is a very good CPU, the 9700K already isn't.

Intel, as always give you "just enough" on the day just one step below the highest end, the 8700K was the only exception to that rule.
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Great post Humbug.

I decided to upgrade my 2600K for a Ryzen 2600 which was delivered today. I couldn't say no to the price for under £120 so no 3600 for me this round.

So I now have a 8700K, 2600X and a 2600. The 2600K was hitting 100% usage in the GEARS 5 tech test and the 2600X was 40-50% with similar fps so I know that the 2600 will satisfy my needs.
 
Davanius said:
Great post Humbug.

I decided to upgrade my 2600K for a Ryzen 2600 which was delivered today. I couldn't say no to the price for under £120 so no 3600 for me this round.

So I now have a 8700K, 2600X and a 2600. The 2600K was hitting 100% usage in the GEARS 5 tech test and the 2600X was 40-50% with similar fps so I know that the 2600 will satisfy my needs.
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Good stuff, for £120 that 2600 is impossible to pass up.
 
its just down to what you do on your pc on a decent modern cpu its probably not worth upgrading to the new amd cpus just for gaming.

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2700x stock vs 3700x in pubg. 103 fps vs 108
5820k stock vs 3700x in pubg. 98 fps vs 108
8600k stock vs 3700x in pubg 106 fps vs 108
7700k stock vs 3700x in pubg 105 fps vs 108
6700k stock vs 3700x in pubg 103 fps vs 108
ryzen 2600x vs 3700x in pubg 98 fps vs 108
i7 3770k vs 3700x in pubg 86 fps vs 108
ryzen 1600x vs 3700x in pubg 91 fps vs 108
ryzen 1700 vs 3700x in pubg 92 fps vs 108
intel 8400 vs 3700x in pubg 99 fps vs 108
intel 8700k vs 3700x in pubg 109 fps vs 108
3600 amd 103 fps vs 108







a decent 5820k will overclock possibly 1ghz on top. so thats same as a stock 3700x ingames or slightly quicker.over clock the 2700x and its a stock 3700x performance in games. so at this point and time if you gaming make sure you check numerous reviews or you could end up with worse performance than you already have.
 
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I'm seeing 30% gains over my 1600 if i run the game in a way that bottlenecks the GPU

That looks like a GPU bottleneck @~>Dg<~ i'm pretty sure a 7700K is more than 5% faster than a 5820K in pubg. the clock speed difference alone is over 15%

~>Dg<~ said:
its just down to what you do on your pc on a decent modern cpu its probably not worth upgrading to the new amd cpus just for gaming.

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2700x stock vs 3700x in pubg. 103 fps vs 108
5820k stock vs 3700x in pubg. 98 fps vs 108
8600k stock vs 3700x in pubg 106 fps vs 108
7700k stock vs 3700x in pubg 105 fps vs 108
6700k stock vs 3700x in pubg 103 fps vs 108







a decent 5820k will overclock possibly 1ghz on top. so thats same as a stock 3700x ingames or slightly quicker.over clock the 2700x and its a stock 3700x performance in games. so at this point and time if you gaming make sure you check numerous reviews or you could end up with worse performance than you already have.
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its with a 1080ti

remember thats all stock most of those chips will clock close to 1 ghz intel wise. from stock. so even the slowest chips on there will be close to even or past the 3700x when overclocked.
 
i think its pretty accurate. what was amds whole sell with these chips ? same as a i7 8700k single core ipc. look at the results. 1 fps between a 8700k stock vs a 3700x.

then work out the ipc difference from older ryzen chips vs 3700x. lets do that then compare the fps difference. its about bang on the ipc difference. work it out yourself. from a 1600x to the 3700x its about 14 percent difference.
 
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