Caporegime
The 7700K, with that 20% higher Mhz already dialed in is not getting 118 FPS, it's 105. explain that, i did, about 3 times...
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Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000
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The 7700K, with that 20% higher Mhz already dialed in is not getting 118 FPS, it's 105. explain that, i did, about 3 times...
Caporegime
I have told you, the reason all what is it 5? Intel CPU's are within 5% of eachother is because the 1080TI is not fast enough to allow any of them, other than perhaps the 5820K to stretch their legs, the 3700X is a few % faster than all of them, but also bottlenecked by that same GPU.
And this is why 720p benchmarks are valid if you don't have the fastest GPU to test with.
The 9-3900X is almost idling in some games at 4K. Something is very wrong in the game development industry.
Caporegime
Just out of interest, given your post history, you can't possibly think the 3900X comes off bad in that video? i mean the 9900K is never more than 5% faster.
Same for the 3700X vs 9700K, other than one game where the 9700K was a little over 10% faster.
They peaked on first gen coffee lake yeah, the 8600k and 8700k. I felt the HTT tax was high tho at 30%. Hence me buying the 8600k as I am not a content creator. Literally within a few months of me buying my cpu the prices started the upwards momentum in prep for their 9000 series.
The core game logic loops, etc. are heavily heavily serial in nature and that won't and really can't change - there is just too much requirement on data being available in order - until games start using extra threads for things like advanced AI, etc. a lot of the cores on a 3900X are going to sit there idle in the average game hence low CPU utilisation.
Well chuffed with my new 9900K. Built my new rig over the weekend, 5Ghz all core overclock was no problem but I won't run it at 5GHz, I just don't see the need right now. I've settled on 4.2Ghz all core lock with Hyper Threading disabled which keeps temps below 60c at all times on my Dark Rock 4 in all the stress tests I've run, so plenty of reserve left in the tank in the temps dept. At 4.2GHz, in IPC terms, the 9900K is a dead match for my old 4690K @ 4.7Ghz, which could run everything I threw at it except games that obvioulsy needed at least 6 cores. Battlefield 5 was completely unplayable for example on my 4690K, it stuttered all over the place, but its as smooth as silk now.
Right now in 2019, a 5Ghz clock speed and an extra 8 threads are simply not needed in any of the stuff I use, but It's nice to know that as stuff becomes more & more demanding over the 3-4yrs I'll be keeping this CPU, I can up the clock speeds and turn Hyper Threading back on when required.
...covered for the next 3-4yrs in the RAM dept as well, 32GB at 3600Mhz means I won't need to think about buying more RAM as 16GB becomes the bare minimum requirement, which no doubt it will in time.
Right now in 2019, a 5Ghz clock speed and an extra 8 threads are simply not needed in any of the stuff I use, but It's nice to know that as stuff becomes more & more demanding over the 3-4yrs I'll be keeping this CPU, I can up the clock speeds and turn Hyper Threading back on when required.
...covered for the next 3-4yrs in the RAM dept as well, 32GB at 3600Mhz means I won't need to think about buying more RAM as 16GB becomes the bare minimum requirement, which no doubt it will in time.
Caporegime
4.2Ghz is well below the 9900K's 4.7Ghz default clocks, and if you're going to do that why not just get a 3700X and leave it as stock, vs a 4.2Ghz 9900K a 3700x is faster.
I mean the 9900K is the faster chip but not if you strangle it, what a waste.
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Caporegime
Like what? quad channel? Intel's HEDT chips are just per core slower higher core count versions of their mainstream CPU's, they don't even have bootable NVMe Raid.
You do realise Intel cannot sell any of them?
Soldato
So now you are saying Intel 12 core CPUs are not DOA,even though they are over £1000 and the Core i9 3900X is under half the price and the 16 core Ryzen 9 3950X is cheaper. So it seems you want Intel to charge £900+ for 12 cores,and AMD charging under half that is terrible and people should buy Intel.
He said Intel 12 core prices are fine,and AMD isn't. So for him Intel is buyable at any price.
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...Why don't you stop worrying about what others do and their reasoning for it. Besides, You're in the wrong thread, this is about Intel. If you want to keep critisising others about their CPU choices, go in the Ryzen thread and tell people how stupid they were buying the 3700, 3800 and 3900 and would have been far better off being as sensible as you, and getting a 3600.
Caporegime
I know, its just mad, given also Threadripper is better at being HEDT than any of Intel's so called HEDT chips.
Caporegime
...Why don't you stop worrying about what others do and their reasoning for it. Besides, You're in the wrong thread, this is about Intel. If you want to keep critisising others about their CPU choices, go in the Ryzen thread and tell people how stupid they were buying the 3700, 3800 and 3900 and would have been far better off being as sensible as you, and getting a 3600.
Not at all i just think it's a bit mad to buy such a high performance CPU for the money it costs and then underclock it, why not just buy a cheaper low power CPU?
Why run it at 5Ghz with all threads enabled when it is simply not needed right now?
I only change my PC's every 4-5yrs, I don't want to rip out the motherboard & CPU in a few years time to upgrade, and buying a 9900K now means I won't have to do that because I know I have plenty of grunt left in reserve ready to be accessed when needed. It's just a waste of power running something at 100% capacity when not needed. As it is, the ONLY thing I'll need to upgrade during the lifetime of this PC, barring hardware failures, is my RTX 2080.