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Odds are it's the motherboard. No way to know for sure unless you can test the now smaller list of suspect components in a different system.

I'd see if Gigabyte will help you determine whether it's faulty. Not to fix it, it's out of warranty, but to confirm if it's dead or not so you can decide how to proceed, and so you know if it's okay to sell it or not, etc.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Support/Technical-Support

There's also a rep here on the forum who may be able to help if you don't have any luck through that method.
 

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Yeah also of the opinion it’s the motherboard. I’ve never had a working cpu fail in 20 years of computing but a few motherboards have gone.

Typically a few weeks before the new AMD chips as well!
 

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TerrierHTFC said:
Yeah also of the opinion it’s the motherboard. I’ve never had a working cpu fail in 20 years of computing but a few motherboards have gone.

Typically a few weeks before the new AMD chips as well!
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I've only ever seen one CPU fail in my 25+ years of messing, and it was a friends machine. Display suddenly shut off, nothing from the GPU but on-board was fine. Replaced GPU, no go, tried it in different PCI-E slot and got POST and display. New motherboard failed to recover, Intel confirmed it was the CPU at fault. Sure was an odd one!
 

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I've fired off an email to Gigabyte to see if they can help.

I'd be tempted to buy a second hand x99 board from you know where just to confirm but the price of them seems really high.
 

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Reading all that, it's either the CPU or board, most likely the board though.

If you want to send the board to us for testing, I can get that sorted for you but obviously we cant repair or replace it due to warranty. However, like you said we will of course let you know if the board is the issue so you can decide how you want to proceed.

Let me know what you want to do.
 

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GIGA-Man said:
Reading all that, it's either the CPU or board, most likely the board though.

If you want to send the board to us for testing, I can get that sorted for you but obviously we cant repair or replace it due to warranty. However, like you said we will of course let you know if the board is the issue so you can decide how you want to proceed.

Let me know what you want to do.
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What a great offer, thanks.

Yeah I'd love to get the board checked and wouldn't expect a repair or a replace at all. At least this way I can get clarity on the problem and then potentially shift on the working parts to put towards a new set up. Normally id have just bought some cheap second hand gear to test but second hand X99 motherboards seem to go for big money and unlike the mainstream sockets I cant buy a cheap Celeron to test.

Just let me know what I need to do.
 

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TerrierHTFC said:
So, update.

Ran everything at stock over the weekend, all seemingly well. Then turned the PC on last night and everything fired up but just got a blank black screen. Reset it and the post screen came up with a message at the bottom saying "windows boot repair" or something of that ilk. Then it just stuck on post screen for about 5 minutes before I restarted again and went into the bios.

It was all at stock but I just happened to look in the saved profiles and all my saved OC profiles were gone.

More and more restarts but could not get past the post screen.

Eventually took the battery out of the motherboard and then first startup after that it went straight into windows no questions asked. Had another look in the bios following the restart and all the saved profiles had reappeared.

Went back into windows and ran AIDA64 for 45 minutes stressing everything but the GPU. No problems at all. Max temps mid low 70s.

Reloaded the saved OC profile in the bios out of curiosity, ran AIDA64 again, no problems. Max temps high 70s.

All is definitely not well.
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Chips often fail the opposite way. It's not all death by toasting. They can start to operate incorrectly when they are cold and only reach normal operation when warm. So basically they are most likely to fail in the morning when the PC has just been switched on. The problem with this is that it usually gets worse fast until the PC just won't switch on. Whenever I have seen this problem it has always needed a new motherboard. Course that doesn't mean the problem is restricted to motherboards, just I would try replacing the motherboard first.
 

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pp111 said:
Chips often fail the opposite way. It's not all death by toasting. They can start to operate incorrectly when they are cold and only reach normal operation when warm. So basically they are most likely to fail in the morning when the PC has just been switched on. The problem with this is that it usually gets worse fast until the PC just won't switch on. Whenever I have seen this problem it has always needed a new motherboard. Course that doesn't mean the problem is restricted to motherboards, just I would try replacing the motherboard first.
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Generally speaking, component failure when cold is typically caused by dried out electrolytic capacitors, i.e. the ones that smooth the voltage regulators due to age + heat. I've often seen them so dried out the small pressure vents on top have "popped" open and you get electrolytic leakage. I've often managed to fix friends and family members' PC's by replacing these in the past but it takes some fairly specialist equipment to do, your average £5 ebay soldering poker just won't do it ;)
 

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Dave Burton said:
Generally speaking, component failure when cold is typically caused by dried out electrolytic capacitors, i.e. the ones that smooth the voltage regulators due to age + heat. I've often seen them so dried out the small pressure vents on top have "popped" open and you get electrolytic leakage. I've often managed to fix friends and family members' PC's by replacing these in the past but it takes some fairly specialist equipment to do, your average £5 ebay soldering poker just won't do it ;)
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I have to confess I never knew what caused these failures, only that they certainly do happen. In retrospect I should have called them components not chips!!!
I suppose it does explain though why it was mostly motherboards we saw fail this way.
I am afraid it was uneconomical for us to fix such things, we just binned them. Lol
 

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pp111 said:
I have to confess I never knew what caused these failures, only that they certainly do happen. In retrospect I should have called them components not chips!!!
I suppose it does explain though why it was mostly motherboards we saw fail this way.
I am afraid it was uneconomical for us to fix such things, we just binned them. Lol
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I'm lucky as I work for an international electronics manufacturer, component and equipment access is easy ;)
 
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