*** Internet Explorer 9 Final Released ***

[Macro]

a browser with no adblocking:



firefox with adblock plus vs IE9 with the TPL list from above. ok so it's blocking the advert but come on......

Yeah, it's a step in the right direction for IE9 but not quite right yet. To be fair the folks developing Adblock do dev for Firefox as the primary platform with others as secondary and IE9 as I suspect a first "dabble" with using TPL to achieve adblocking so I think they've done a reasonable job. I'm a huge fan of the mighty "Admuncher" which remove Ads for all browser/IM/Twitter etc on your PC in one fell swoop along with IPscrambling and a bunch of other tools. I'm less a fan of their new pricing policy but meh, if it does a good job i don't mind paying for someones work.

No doubt about it though, for extensions Firefox is still king of the browsers by a long way. Chrome used to be top dog for speed, although now I think it's more of a even race with hardly any noticable difference between Opera11,Chrome10, FF4, IE9.

Good times! Competition between the browsers has meant now you'd be hard pushed to chose a "bad" browser and and they're all pushing to deliver new stuff

 

[mrk]

Wow... So bitter about a web browser... And yet still you troll this thread when supposedly you have no interest in IE9.

It's a first pass by the adblock folks at using TPL. If you want Ads blocked completely along with IP scarmabling and a bunch of other stuff Admuncher works well with IE9 producing much the same results as Adblock on FF above.

If you're not going to contribute anything useful go troll somewhere else plskthxbye

*yawn* Give it a rest getting all defensive, quite unnecessary. Maybe I'm just stating the obvious but everything I've posted so far has been relevant. mainly the UI side of things (like why the back button is still hanging off the navbar edge and why there's a few pixel line gap between tab bottom and navbar in the default layout) among other smaller things.

But that's besides the point, the point was people were making IE9 out to be something amazing compared to everything else. It is amazing compared to older IE versions, as people have mentioned though, it still has a long way to go before its more amazing than Opera/FF/Chrome etc.

Yes they're all great speedy little browsers, nobody is questioning that, but there are smaller differences and all the small stuff adds up in the end.

 

[beachBOYken]

Adblock and TPL from here - http://www.fanboy.co.nz/adblock/ie.html or chose one of the other list TPLs if you prefer to be covered by two different sources.

the only thing im still unsure about is how the security side of things work ?

are the lists safe such as fanboys or any of the others from the ms lists?

thanks

 

[Macro]

If the lists are on http://trackingprotectionlist.com/en/trackingprotectionlists/default.aspx You should be fine to use them I should think.

 

[Macro]

*yawn* Give it a rest getting all defensive, quite unnecessary.

But that's besides the point, the point was people were making IE9 out to be something amazing compared to everything else. It is amazing compared to older IE versions, as people have mentioned though, it still has a long way to go before its more amazing than Opera/FF/Chrome etc.

*stuff edited*Actually i can't be bothered to try to discuss with you as you're clearly not listening to anything anyone has to say that might be positive or correct you where you've got stuff wrong.

You don't like IE9, no problem, but all you're doing here now is trying to start a flame exchange. It's like going to the Apple forum where people are discussing a new OSX release or iPad 2 and posting "Apple is better than they used to be but are still rubbish compared to PC/Linux/Android".

Shoo...

 

[mrk]

Ah, so anyone answering you "is getting all defensive". Posting sweeping generalisations like "has a long way to go before its more amazing than Opera/FF/Chrome etc." is the trolling we come to expect in the graphics cards forum, not here.

Except it's not a generalisation. And besides, I was commenting on your own statement:

Wow... So bitter about a web browser... And yet still you troll this thread when supposedly you have no interest in IE9.

Of course I do have an interest in IE9, which is why I tried the betas, submitted feedback and so on. but I, along with some others, do want to see the bugs addressed and not see it turn in to another MSE where bugs are left for months on end and in one case not fixed at all.

Thank you very much.

 

[Macro]

If you say so.... /sigh

 

[Participant]

everything I've posted so far has been relevant.

 

[mrk]

Well none of it has been false information, if that's a better way of putting it

There will always be people who call it trolling whether it's about IE, a gfx card, a cpu, a game or whatever. Nobody likes hearing bad stuff about stuff they like. I'd be the same about Android, for example!

Fine if it's false info then flame hats at the ready etc but when it's valid info being thrown about then I don't have a problem with the debate.

 

[Participant]

I don't think you're trolling (that gets bandied around far too often on these forums) but this:

Having the same line occupy tab bars and url bar just makes the tab width shorter unless you contract the URL bar length in which case long URLs don't have enough space...

is not relevant . You said everything you posted was relevant.

 

[m4cc45]

*yawn* Give it a rest getting all defensive, quite unnecessary. Maybe I'm just stating the obvious but everything I've posted so far has been relevant. mainly the UI side of things (like why the back button is still hanging off the navbar edge and why there's a few pixel line gap between tab bottom and navbar in the default layout) among other smaller things.

If you were submitting stuff like 'OMG there's a few pixel gap please fix kthxbye' then I fully understand why they ignored it.

The browser has come on leaps and bounds, even since RC. Yes it doesn't have a ton of addons like FF - the same addons that can also make the browser slower and unstable.

It's lightning fast for me and I enjoy using it - FF responded to IE by releasing FF4 even though it isn't really ready acording to the majority of forums (google FF4 problems just to see the top of the iceberg).

Every browser has issues. I find IE9 very stable, quick and does what it says on the tin.



M.

 

[Macro]

*Edit - snip stuff*

Actually - just this

Every browser has issues. I find IE9 very stable, quick and does what it says on the tin.

 

[mrk]

Sorry if I upset your ideal browser of choice but you're the one assuming I'm having a pop at "M$" (I absolutely loathe it when people use that acronym anyway) not me. Heck you're the one who's been aggressive right from the start with your tone of writing.

Also an FYI, if anything I am Pro Microsoft when it comes to software hence why I push people towards MSE over any other AV package and use it myself even with the bugs because it does the job better than any other free alternative (and most paid for too).

Granted, with browsers some people just want to install it and use it. Like an iPhone they just want to open the box and start using it instead of learning it and customising it a bit first to tailor it to their specific uses.

I still feel my points before were completely valid. If a point applies to x number of people, however small, then it's still a value point. Just because you're not in that minority doesn't make the person making the point a troll.

 

[Macro]

You didn't upset my choice of browser, you just posted a bunch of stuff that was either incorrect or your personal opinion, and then either ignored replies correcting you or tried to act the injured party when several people took you to task over the specifics.

Nobody likes hearing bad stuff about stuff they like. I'd be the same about Android, for example!

Clearly - it's pretty self evident you felt the need to defend your choice of browser against a thread where people mentioned they might prefer something else.

 

[mrk]

You didn't upset my choice of browser, you just posted a bunch of ill informed, incorrect twaddle, and then either ignored replies correcting you or tried to act the injured party when several people took you to task over the specifics in the thread.

Several people, as in just sunlitsix then who posted a helpful reply and I acknowledged it in the following reply. unless you mean Robbie G too who just lolled a bit o) - Yeah quite.

Edit*
Sorry didn't see your ninja edit.
Well there's a need for most things yes. Like I said elsewhere, I liked IE8, I used all 3 browsers for work and for home on the same machine. Anyway, where else is someone supposed to post their IE9 dislikes? In the Chrome thread?

Great.

 

[Macro]

Of course you are entitled to your opinion, but you made a rod for your own back by jumping into a thread being used by others for useful information posting in a way guaranteed to get a negative response.

But that's besides the point, the point was people were making IE9 out to be something amazing compared to everything else. .

*yawn*

Yes IE's implementation for the modded adblock is a laugh.

You're a very eloquent poster but frankly why post stuff in a thread to try to stir it up if you're going to act innocent and the injured party when people like m4cc45, Robbie G and other take you to task on the specifics.

For example your comment that "IEs implemetation of the modded adblock is a laugh", as a dig following on a post where someone had actually contributed some research, when clearly it's not "IEs"implentation, it's a first pass by the Fanboy folks looking at how TPL could be used with adblock.

The same with the tabs and a bunch of other stuff you posted. If you don't like IE9, fine, we can all point at every one of the current browsers pointing out bugs or things we don't like but it's not particularly helpfull or interesting reading is it.

There's a line between chatting about strengths and weaknesses in a thread and just trying to stir up a negative response and you just seemed of all the posters in this thread to be trying to get the last word and post flame bait.

 

[mrk]

I think 2 misunderstandings have gone on here, my post about the adblocking being a laugh was in reply to marc's screenshot showing the gigantic gaps left by the adblocker - That is a laugh hence why I posted it but ultimately I guess that is my fault for this because I could have worded it better or at least quoted marc's post. It wasn't intended to be rubbish but looking back I suppose it it did seem that way.

The tabs location bit I already acknowledged (and mentioned twice now since then) but I didn't see anyone bring me /up to task/ on the tab gap issue if that's what you meant? Apologies if they did and I missed it but I haven't seen it.

 

[marc2003]

i've just been googling to see if there was anything better for blocking ads in IE9 and it brought me back to another thread right here on OcUK.

Another solution for hiding elements in IE9 is to use fanboy's opera css. I found it to be the fastest hiding solution so far. I modified it slightly to remove some extra items, namely things at cnet and softpedia, since I frequent those sites. Here is a link to my version, although all credit belongs to fanboy.

http://cid-0d21e50b424e7db3.office.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/fanboy-IE9-Mod.css

To use it, save it to your computer somewhere, and when you open IE9, go to tools, internet options, and click on the accessability push button on the bottom right of the general tab, check the box for "format documents using my style sheet", and browse to the css file. Restart IE, and you're done!

Cheers!

i'm very impressed.

 

[TigerUK]

Too little too late, I've really got used to FF and chrome, IE isn't going to win me back now. I have too many saved passwords in ff, and I'm used to the plugins.

I do use chrome for fast browsing occasionally

 

[Macro]

I think 2 misunderstandings have gone on here, my post about the adblocking being a laugh was in reply to marc's screenshot showing the gigantic gaps left by the adblocker - That is a laugh hence why I posted it but ultimately I guess that is my fault for this because I could have worded it better or at least quoted marc's post. It wasn't intended to be rubbish but looking back I suppose it it did seem that way.

Ok, I apologise if I was overly grumpy. Perhaps you unfairly got tarred with the same brush as some of the posters in other threads who post to be provocative when a thread is actually being productive.