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'Android phones' are the most popular in the world right now I think.
iPhone 4 or android?
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only because there's more choice.. you can have a 100quid android phone or you can have a 500 quid android beast of a phone like the latest Samsung.. on iphone you only got one model going with different storage size..
if apple made some budget-ish phones for ~200quid they would win a lot of market with them.. but now not everyone can let them selves spend 500+ on a mobile phone
Indeed, i'm pretty sure that around 90% of the owners of android phones, given the choice would prefer an iphone however don't do so given the cost involved.
Like with anything the dedicated android fans who tinker and use it at its full potential probably only make up around 5% (if that)
Like with anything the dedicated android fans who tinker and use it at its full potential probably only make up around 5% (if that)
Apple only generally tailor to the top end of any market they are in, I can't see them doing that.
As for people calling the iPhone 'old' hardware, its still decent now, it isn't dual core but that is its only real shortcoming along with the low RAM, but iOS runs well enough on it and that is all that most people are worried about.
If you think they are paying £200 just for the Apple logo, then once again you are mistaken. It actually makes me laugh how upset people get over Apple. Get a grip.
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i wouldn't say its old hardware.. it feels great in hand solid and heavy (i dont mind if my phone is heavy) and all the apps/games etc etc that i have tested on it run as they should with no slow downs crashes or other stuff so for now the faster hardware is really not needed..
but then again i would expect my phone to run everything for 500quid 
Fixed for you.
last gen in what way ? what would you add to improve it ?
more RAM that it doesn't need because it still runs GREAT games and apps problem free ?
maybe a dual core CPU with no use except extending E peen and running benchmarks faster?
a better screen that it doesn't need because the one on it is still one of the best nearly a year later ?
improve the casing that is still one of the best feeling and quality out there ?
unlike google you can guarantee that when apple boost the hardware they will actually have the software there ready to show off and make it worthwhile
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There's always room for improvement. Someone buying an IP4 now won't be in great shape come 12-18-24 months when new iOS updates cause the phone to become bogged down.
A refresh at least every 12 months ensures the phone will remain a joy to use for longer.
The build quality is the only thing the doesn't need changing...all the rest does for sure.
And your last sarky comment is quite uneducated as dual core has improved how Android runs - SGS2 runs as silky smooth and faster than anything else out there.
R34P3R: Yes, your point holds true. However, I very much doubt that many are going to be considering either a San Fran or an iPhone. They will be comparing similarly priced phones. When talking about the iPhone, most will be talking about iOS, not the hardware.
When it comes to the pricing and generations of a device, it simply isn't about whether it is enough; at the end of the day, if the hardware has moved on, the phone is last generation, so the pricing so change as a result. The value of the infrastructure could easily be argued to be the choice of the consumer, not the manufacturer. At the end of the day, Android works better for some than iOS, and vice versa. Yes, the iPhone in its current form runs well, but so does my DHD, and I'm not paying extra for that, am I?
Just thought I'd also say, the reason that the SGS2 runs well isn't because of the dual core processor; it is all down to the coding. My DHD running CM7 honestly runs just as smoothly; TouchWiz is pretty light. And the scrolling is not particularly natural, so you could say it is a bit of an animation in a way.
When it comes to the pricing and generations of a device, it simply isn't about whether it is enough; at the end of the day, if the hardware has moved on, the phone is last generation, so the pricing so change as a result. The value of the infrastructure could easily be argued to be the choice of the consumer, not the manufacturer. At the end of the day, Android works better for some than iOS, and vice versa. Yes, the iPhone in its current form runs well, but so does my DHD, and I'm not paying extra for that, am I?
Just thought I'd also say, the reason that the SGS2 runs well isn't because of the dual core processor; it is all down to the coding. My DHD running CM7 honestly runs just as smoothly; TouchWiz is pretty light. And the scrolling is not particularly natural, so you could say it is a bit of an animation in a way.
So if it doesn't need all these things why will the next iPhone undoubtedly have more ram, dual core (more that likely)? The hardware in the iPhone 4 is last gen atleast on a processor level and some might argue on the camera too.
The iP4 camera is great but the SGS2 one is noticeably better.
In a month we will see parts of iOS5 and some of that stuff will probably be better on dual-core, etc.
So it could run better apps and games problem free? There could be greater functionality? More RAM is never a bad thing. Why limit something so important on a 'next gen' handset when the competition has taken advantage of the capability?
And battery life. Which is quite important on any device, let alone an iPhone that has no user replaceable battery.
Higher resolution? Keeping one step a head of the competition who have already developed and caught up to the 'previous gen' best screen?
Sorting out a case that doesn't contribute towards inherent reception problems might be an idea
Shock horror as Apple optimize iOS for a finite hardware configuration.
Now, I don't mean to come across as anti-Apple but the above points just scream fan-boy-ism so the counter arguments will obviously be highly contrasting.
Let's put it another way; using the logic in your post and extending it further, Apple could just not bother updating the iPhone4 hardware wise and re-release it with iOS5 for the same price while the competition all edges ahead spec wise. Sound like good business sense?
Perfect sum up
HTC Desire is roughly equivalent to an iPhone in terms of user experience, imo. There are some seriously sheddy Androids about so choose carefully.
This should be a banned subject like "interconnects" on hifi forums (this is a joke before you get all serious business) . Maybe we could just have a sticky thread where you all fight in it to stop it spilling into the other threads 
This should be a banned subject like "interconnects" on hifi forums (this is a joke before you get all serious business) . Maybe we could just have a sticky thread where you all fight in it to stop it spilling into the other threads
Indeed, its quite petty.
It was you that said about the networks charging the high prices and not actually Apple, wasn't it? Or did I imagine it
Because by the time it comes out the software will of caught up...
you've completely missed my point , which was about how apple aren't milking anything anymore than anyone else is but are infact being sensible
ReRead the post I was quoting
Nobody knows this for sure though. Some rumours suggest we might only see a iPhone 4GS or something and iOS 5 might be further away than we think.
How Apple could be thought of as 'sensible' for not including that latest hardware in a 'next gen' handset?
