IPS vs VA

sybaris

sybaris

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Hello, me again (I can hear the groans of "oh no, not again").

For a 1440 140 or a 165 hz screen somewhere in the region of a 27, 32 or 34 Ultrawide, with multi purpose use work, games and streaming.

As I will be sitting face on, is an IPS panel still better than a VA panel?
Refresh rates are on par with each other and I have always had IPS as long as I can remember
but VA open up more options.

Should I stick with IPS?
 
For the moment on a general rule, I would argue IPS has VA beaten simply due to the **** response time of the VA when it comes to dark transitions. HOWEVER, the G7 from Samsung is the exception to the rule with excellent response times, and dark trails, like we are used to from VA, are a thing of the past. That said, the curve is not for everyone and the monitor takes up a ton of space due to the stand if you don't wall-mount it and the last con is if you get one of the earlier batches you may have scanlines on some solid color formations. It doesn't show during gaming but is visible on the desktop depending on your setup.

If you end up with a Sammy G7, remember to check the firmware version of it. If it's older than 1009.3 then update it, which is easy.
 
Phixsator said:
the G7 from Samsung is the exception to the rule with excellent response times, and dark trails, like we are used to from VA, are a thing of the past.
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I've found the Philips 436M6 surprisingly good for a VA - pretty much all other VA monitors I've tried I see the transition/motion issues sooner or later and once I do can't unsee them but so far been happy with that panel (despite having 1-2 other flaws).
 
I have just moved from VA it IPS and don’t regret it at all. That being said my VA was the Acer Z35p so while it’s fairly premium it’s not the most modern panel tech.
I have always been of the opinion that if your budget allows then IPS is the way to go - VA is really only for the budget conscious, which is partly why I nended up with the Z35p in the first place a couple of years ago.
As for contrast I haven’t noticed any appreciable difference between my new IPS and my Acer and, as has been mentioned, when you look at contrast as numbers game (like reviewers) then sure it’s lower but in day to day use I don’t notice it. In fact, since the IPS colours tend to ‘pop’ that little bit more that adds it’s own extra contrast.
The one big difference I will point out is IPS glow. Unlike backlight bleed which can be hit and miss every IPS panel will exhibit glow on some level and mine is no exception. Compared to the VA I notice that, in the corners especially, blacks are not as dark as VA and if I used my monitor for very dark games or for watching movies I would seriously consider VA as the preference. As it is I only play racing sims and don’t watch movies so I am more than happy with IPS glow trade off.
 
Ive had an IPS for years and its nearly 10 years old. I have never noticed the glow on it. I'm probably not aware of it. I do watch a lot of movies and don't really notices the screen once I get in to it.
What I do pick up on my old PC is dark scenes having blocky dark backgrounds but that is probably due to the age of the card and an old screen.
 
I just love the look of a good IPS for gaming and TV for that matter.

But what i find more important is just having high quality, you can get bad screens no matter if its IPS or whatever
 
Impressed with my Samsung VA, no trailing at all. Played Doom and that's hectic game, moving around etc. I can recommend curved monitors, as from my position the edges are flat on. I wouldn't buy a large flat monitor.
 
Tried a few VA while they have improved over the years i always end up going back to IPS and i am currently running a Gigabyte M28U.

I would have liked to try a Samsung VA panel but i did not like the curve.
 
Again I am leaning away from the 32, I have a feeling that sitting an arms length away, it may be too close and in my face.
I was thinking of the Gigabyte M28U as its 4K at 144hz. How is it for desktop size and clarity of text?
Today I am revisiting 27"s, I did recheck the 34 UWs and I still have this niggling feeling that to get what I want is expensive and will everything run? Even if older stuff has black bars, I can go with that but
if somethings will just crash I don't think its going to work. Also there seems to be more choice of 27s than 32s.
 
sybaris said:
Again I am leaning away from the 32, I have a feeling that sitting an arms length away, it may be too close and in my face.
I was thinking of the Gigabyte M28U as its 4K at 144hz. How is it for desktop size and clarity of text?
Today I am revisiting 27"s, I did recheck the 34 UWs and I still have this niggling feeling that to get what I want is expensive and will everything run? Even if older stuff has black bars, I can go with that but
if somethings will just crash I don't think its going to work. Also there seems to be more choice of 27s than 32s.
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I think 4K monitors is a bit pointless, also means high end GPU. Try seeing how small a pixel is on a 1440p 27".
 
Still thinking that though the ultra wides are good for putting windows in a row, the extra height and width of a 32 at 144p may be more beneficial for productivity.
Maybe in a couple of years when scaling on a 4K is better I will consider 4k then but I don't do that much FPS games. Sometimes openworld games in single player or sometimes more strategy or FM2020 which is fairly
static, but I don't compete online such as counterstrike or CoD. I'd go to 170hz though.
 
sybaris said:
Still thinking that though the ultra wides are good for putting windows in a row, the extra height and width of a 32 at 144p may be more beneficial for productivity.
Maybe in a couple of years when scaling on a 4K is better I will consider 4k then but I don't do that much FPS games. Sometimes openworld games in single player or sometimes more strategy or FM2020 which is fairly
static, but I don't compete online such as counterstrike or CoD. I'd go to 170hz though.
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You won’t gain any vertical real estate with 32 1440p and would actually lose horizontal real estate when compared to a 34 inch ultrawide. It’s not the physical size that determines your working area it’s resolution.
A 32 1440p has the EXACT same working space as a 27 inch 1440p.
 
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sybaris said:
Again I am leaning away from the 32, I have a feeling that sitting an arms length away, it may be too close and in my face.
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Lot depends on what you mean by that arm's length:
Is it "can grab from sides of the monitor" (to adjust its position), or "finger tips just reaching monitor with arm and everything straightened"?

My average distance with 30" 16:10 (~same height as 32") is finger tips falling little short of reaching monitor.
 
The G7 is the only VA for gaming with acceptable response times and no dark-level smearing. I'd have one already if it wasn't for the stupid 1000R curve.

The rest of the VA panels have ridiculous (-ly bad) response times for dark-level pixel transitions.

IPS glow really doesn't bother me at all. VA has "black crush" as an additional (and for me worse) problem.

So for me it's IPS all day long.
 
EsaT said:
Lot depends on what you mean by that arm's length:
Is it "can grab from sides of the monitor" (to adjust its position), or "finger tips just reaching monitor with arm and everything straightened"?

My average distance with 30" 16:10 (~same height as 32") is finger tips falling little short of reaching monitor.
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Its an approximation. Its on my desk at an average desk width. Reason I am hesitant is text at 1440 is not as sharp as 1440 at 27" probably 50 to 60 cm away
 
sybaris said:
Its an approximation. Its on my desk at an average desk width. Reason I am hesitant is text at 1440 is not as sharp as 1440 at 27" probably 50 to 60 cm away
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50cm would be definitely "in your face" close for 32" with looking around the screen taking work.
60cm would be more reasonable... Though 2560x1440 would need upgrading.

Guess 27" 4K would be OK from between 50 and 60cm.
 
sybaris said:
Its an approximation. Its on my desk at an average desk width. Reason I am hesitant is text at 1440 is not as sharp as 1440 at 27" probably 50 to 60 cm away
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I worried about both sharpness, in games for (play) and text (for work) with 32 inch.

It's not an issue.

When I got the monitor its closer to me than my old 27inch because of it's stand. Which I worried about when I set it up. But that is also not an issue.

The stand is also not as adjustable, so I also decided to get mildly anxious about that for a moment, but it's also not an issue.

You really need to take a punt and try it or not if you can't get over any concerns. 27 inch monitors are just as good, simply slightly less immersive.

Really until you have the thing in front of you, it's impossible to tell.

All the reviews, I watched or read stressed the res and size was fine, but I still stressed about whether to buy it or not as a lot of this depends on what you're eyes are use to, which makes it subjective.

In my case nothing to worry about and I would seem to have the same experience as all the reviews I have seen.

But you are never going to know unless you actually play on one whether it will work out for you.

The contrast is pretty dire, but I only notice that because I have an OLED in the living room. Great for games but I would not watch movies on it, as I have a much better screen for that, if I did not, this would be fine for movies as I would not notice the difference.

Like the H.D.R its pants, but in a few games it's still nice to switch it on, the game looks better, in others you don't want to bother. But in comparison to the OLED its not remotely like good H.D.R.


The only thing that narks me off is that this is not a 32 inch O.L.E.D. No idea why they are not in the market around £750 to £850 in price.

Ideal size for desktop gaming/ ideal screen out of all the current tech, I could live with the risk of burn in just to get that quality of image.
 
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