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Your nuts Murray every night I see you on you are driving something else. You are a decent driver and have good pace, but you are going to burn yourself out at this rate.

As I said to you the other day if you want to drive things like the Lotus 79 you need to really improve your race craft. Trust me its a whole new ball game having the leaders close in on you at 170mph+ Its also a car that demands commitment, Its not a pick up and play car for numerous reasons.

You will also need to develop the art of building a setup that suits you and your driving style. The Lotus as so many steup paramters. Sets are more player tuned than car tuned.

By all means have some fun with the Lotus but IMO you really need to get some proper C class series under your belt before you even think about B class.

You wont have the Skills, race craft, the ability to negotiate traffic, the setup no how or the seat time to compete at B class yet.
 
Yeah, I didn't really plan on racing it, I just enjoy driving the car around tbh :p

I usually stick to the Skippy but I'm doing everything I can to avoid Sebring at the minute. The amount of bumps on that track.. The Skippy hates it.
 
So I have found a guy selling a Fanatec GT3 RS V2 with the CSR Elite pedals. The wheel is brand new, the stitching on his previous one went a bit weird so he sent it back to Fanatec who replaced it and he has only connected the wheel to ensure it works, it's never been "used". The pedals have 20 hours of gameplay.

£200 is the asking price.

I am considering taking the deal and adding the club sport shifter at a later date.

G27's seem to be over £200 second hand on eBay, rare sales seem to sell for just under £200 but by the time you add on postage etc, seems I have a direct competition between thsi Fanatec buy or a G27 from eBay.

What do you guys think? Is the Fanatec buy a no brainer over the G27?
 
Yeah, I didn't really plan on racing it, I just enjoy driving the car around tbh :p

I usually stick to the Skippy but I'm doing everything I can to avoid Sebring at the minute. The amount of bumps on that track.. The Skippy hates it.

Buy Oulten Park then and Go drive The radical and the Lotus 79 there, If you put up a hosted session later i will lap with you. Oulten park is just brilliant fun. Never gets boring and cars like the Radical and Lotus are a perfect match for each other,
 
The next step up would probably be the Star Mazda but when the Lotus 49 is out I think going Skippy - Lotus 49 - Lotus 79 would be great.
 
Another waffle post by me :p

Dont take any of this as gospel or anything else I say in this thread this is all just IMO and the way I've experienced Iracing and the subject /car in question for everyone else it will be different.

But the Lotus 79 nothing and I mean nothing will set you up for driving the lotus on a full grid with a full tank of fuel. Unless your Senna or huttu himself going from the skippy to the lotus will just make your SR and IR dive bomb, make you go bald and annoy a lot of people who have sat down all week put in about 20hrs practice. I doubt even the Lotus 49 will set you up for driving the Lotus 79 The lotus 49 as no downforce, witchcraft in effect and terrible little skinny tires. It is faster in a straight line though think they was hitting close to 200mph down Kemal back in the day ? with no seatbelts and leather helmets lol. "Like a boss". :p

The skippy as very zero down force uses dust bin lids for tires and handles like a lawn mower with a moped engine, compared to the 79. The 49 will handle nothing like the 79 as the 79 uses witchcraft to make it go round bends. It uses a physic bending form of downforce known as "ground effect" something that was banned in F1 due to how well it worked, and how dramictally bad it went when it failed.

Basically how it works imagine an upside down wing underneath the car, air is sucked in at the front and trapped underneath the car as the Lotus 79 used "skirts" these sit at the end of the sidepods that sit flush with the ground stopping air from escaping out the sides, basically think of an upside down wing crossed with the opposite to how a hovercraft works the air underneath the car sucks it to the ground. Which in turn means the faster you go the better the car turns in been squashed down into the road by the huge difference in air pressure underneath and above the car.

Now nothing will set you up for that as no other car uses witchcraft as an aero dynamic part. Take my first experience with the Lotus 79 for example. Mossport a track I like and had just spend about 20 hours the previous week racing in the Radical, So knew pretty well. 5 attempts just to make it out the pits (I use no aids and a H-shifter) I wrote the car off in 5 unique ways just going from N-1-2.

Finally on attempt number 6. I exit the pits I get to Turn 2.5 the Fast downhill Left hander doing no more than a snails pace. Omg WTF is this steering wheel doing you move it all of 1mm and the cars does 2 360s I hit the grass slide off into the tires and get the god dam "Meat Ball" cars bent and theres bits of chassis everywhere. Repeat for about 15 goes, where I either loose it with steering or if I do make it to the apex applying the throttle spins the back wheels up the car points everywhere but straight. I do a 360 hit the grass slide into the tires and destroy the car. After about half an hour I can finally string a lap togther, scared tiff to touch the steering the brakes or the throttle the whole time. I know if I touch either even the slightest amount the car will just head for the nearest Tire Wall and destroy itself know matter what I do.

While all this is going on Ive got another 30 Lotus's flying past me at what looks like 1million miles an hour. After about an hour I can finally get the car round the track I try to follow people into bends now I have a bit of confidence, Im still scared stiff of the steering wheel at this point the throttle and I dread using the brakes. as every time I do the backend just locks up, wants to overtake the front end and the car heads for the nearest "Tire Wall".

After a few hours it starts to click I realised the steering wheel on this car does bugger all. Its just something for the real F1 drivers to hold onto when the car gave way and hit the nearest wall at 150+mph. Think of the steering wheel as a 1980's air bag. You steer this things with the throttle 90% of the time and brakes the rest of the time.(Ill explain the brakes in a moment) you can widdle that steering wheel if you want good luck with that one though. I only use it to correct the thottle input. Normally a huge swing to the left or right to induce under or oversteer.

The brakes again are weird to get used to most of it is done by the back wheels the front wheel on the Lotus are tiny compared to the back ones and have hard enough time trying to stop the car from heading for the nearest tire wall. Everything is done on the back. So you need to master trail braking something the skippy will kinda teach you I guess and so will the Lotus 49. But not to this degree.

The MX5 base setup has the brake Bias set 81.*% to the front 19% to the back. The radical i use 56%-58% to the front. The lotus 79 your be using around 55%-65% on the "back" some people run more than this, I cannot mines set around 45% to the front everything else to the back. Most cars your be used of the brake balance to the front no more than usually 40% to the back wheels if you use the base sets.

Once I finally got a grip of all this made a setup that worked for me (mainly tweaking the brakes adding a big more downforce to keep me out the tires)and the main thing "changed the steering rack" so when I turn the thing the car doesn't do a 360 for every 1 degree of steering input.

Setup made I took the car back out nailed her out the pits countersteering every slide as I light her up from 1st dropped the clutch whack her into 2nd grabbing hold of the steering as she wheel spins all the way up to 100mph exit the pits plant the throttle into turn T2.5 hitting T3-4 full pelt little lift dab of the brake get the backend out slide her gracefully around the apex dancing on the throttle and brake pedal pretending I'm doing the river dance. Into moss as fast as I dared, the car sliding everywhere I some how managed to wrestle it up and over moss hill aim her at the exit and hit the loud pedal the car slides everywhere I counter every slide modulating the thottle I feel grip and we are off up the long straight. I've got Lotus 79's everywhere in my mirrors some of the vets coming past me like im in a Austin Allegro but I don't care I haven't made it through moss yet at anything above 5mph We head into sector 3 the sweepers. I hold my breath, try to stay as carm as possible and just glide the car through the bends and make it through the last bend without hitting the outside curbs which i known will make the car do a 360 spit me across the road into the pit wall killing both me my car and any poor soles unlucky enough to arrive at sector 3 behind me.

Some how I manage it and the next lap I increase my pace and this time push a little faster through every bend but for some reason now I make it through the bend but without sliding off but im going faster. My brain is very confused. As I cross the line for lap 3 the car all of a sudden feels like its glued to the tarmac. It now goes where I tell it to.

After doing about 20 laps without crashing each lap getting faster and faster. I retire to the pits quite happy with Adrenaline pumping a huge grin on my face a grin I've only ever experienced racing karts.


So I look at the time board I must be at least top 10 with that Im thinking I was dancing on the pedals like the great man himself Senna. My position drum roll...................................................

Stone cold last of about 40 drivers about 10 seconds off the pace :confused: Did I care no I've just had the best experience driving anything made from pixels and if I squinted just a bit I could pretend Im living a live long dream of driving a 1980's F1 car at my limit.

You can skip all the above its only really my view on the car and as you can probably tell I have a love for the old Lotus.




But 100000000% buy the car its the best car Imo on the service really and on any game IMO. Its the only one I can sit on myself and run lap after lap after lap. Its frigin awesome around the classic tracks like Oulten Park, Silverstone, Spa and sector 1-2 at Suzuka thats just amazing in the Lotus 79, your feel like a driving God attacking T1-2 at full pelt exiting t-2 on full lock as you fight to put the power down, dive into the S's sliding it through each of them, driving it with the throttle and brakes. Using the "crash wheel" to gracefully slide it at the limit. You will hit T1, Dunlop, Deggars 1 and Deggars 2 and R130 at speeds your brain wont even be able to compute, Once you master the Ground effect and the fact if you enter a bend in 2rd gear at 60mph and the car doesn't make it, next time around hit the same bend in 4th Gear at 150mph and Trust me it will make it through.

The car becomes amazing and will put a smile on your face like no other sim car. I said to Liam "If I could have only one car and one track from any games I've played, and I've played most the racing ones back to the 80's" It would be Iracings The Lotus 79 @ Oulten Park. I don't think I've drove any other combo on my own in TT mode, as I have that combo. The car is just amazing round there and watching/speccing someone who is good in the Lotus go round Oulten Park it will blow your mind.

It also has the best community of the cars, the guys over there are amazing.
I no a tiny smidge about there Lotus 79 and how it's works, reading some of the threads on there and there knowledge of the cars and era of Motorsports, its worth it alone.

They also run the proper replica series with all the proper teams and team colours. Now I have my B class back I will be moving to it in a season or two after more practice.

One thing to bare in mind its a a lot easier to drive now on the new tire mod and handles a bit different not better not worse just different. Its way more catch-able so defo all grab it. I'd happily pay hundreds if not $1000's for it and Oulten Park let alone less than £20 quid it is.

Lining her up on a full grid with all those vets to the series in there replica colours this tune below on in the background and Im 6 years old again watching my hero drive a Black Lotus 79 like a man possessed.

 
Sorry mate was just having tea, If you give me half an hour I'd happly run it with you. Use what version you want but my fav is international w/o hislop.

The series uses International W/O chicanes.
 
Liams as just put up a practice session at Oulten park for the Lotus 79, Radical, Skippy and Star Mazda. Jump onboard goes Live at 8:30pm be nice to turn some laps with the rest of you guys
 
Short answer get the Radical if you want something that will set you up for the Lotus 79.
But buy the lotus, buy it now.

Haha I guess you like the lotus?! Was an entertaining read. All these fancy cars I just enjoy playing about with on test sessions on my own so no risk ruining a race as its just me. I find it breaks up the hourly race sessions.

I still love the skippy but yet to race her. Just use her round the tracks for jollies in practice in between mx5 races. Keeps the game fresh.
 
OUt of interest, does reducing the wheel rotation angle mean the wheel is more sensitive? The T500RS is 1080 degrees and I find the MX5 really has to ahve the wheel turned loads to get around corners.

If you reduce this down in the sim after calibrating, does this mean you can turn the wheel to a lesser degree for a better turning angle, or does it just compensate for this and it turns exactly the same?

What do people here run their degree of rotation at?
 
I believe it should be the same in the driver and in the sim (so you set it in the driver, then calibrate once in iRacing and never touch it).

Each car has a different lock, and the sim will automatically stop your wheel from turning beyond this point, even if your maximum lock is higher. Mine is at 900, simply because I use it in other sims set up for 900 - I've had it calibrated to 1080 in iRacing before and it made no difference.

Turning your wheel 90 degrees will turn the virtual wheel 90 degrees, no matter what your maximum lock is.

It should be clear from the iRacing control setup page whether your physical wheel's rotation is matching the wheel icon on screen. If you mess with the rotation slider after calibration, it will no longer be 1-to-1. This will make your virtual wheel turn faster or slower (wrong either way).

You shouldn't be having to turn the wheel very far at all in the MX-5. A fast lap around Lime Rock can be achieved without turning beyond 90 degrees left or right. If you feel you are having to turn a lot more than this, you are probably generating too much understeer.
 
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Cheers Liam that was an amazing session 4hrs shot by, The Lotus defiantly feels a lot different with new tires on her. Took me nearly 4 hours to get to grips with it lol. Helped after spotting my pedals was fubared. makes me wonder if its happening with all the other also. Since i plugged the new pedals in. Ill have to check. But either way that was an a brilliant blast.

Move of the session for me. Me overtaking you around the outside in the right hand 2nd gear hairpin. Well done on nailing the perfect lap at the end. i was up quite a bit and just took to much into the last bend. bending the car.
 
Oo and my new nick name for you is Alan, it was Jackie, after that blatant Ferrari driver move on my flying lap you are defiantly the french surrendering monkey himself.
 
I was rather surprised that you managed to pull that overtake off tbh, was expecting us to end up touching since the track is so narrow.

The amount of times you crashed into my car just because it was a Ferrari was insane :p You need to get an actual paint job on yours rather than just a solid colour ;)

I reckon we should join the CTC.. there isn't really any requirements other than participation and not being an idiot, could be fun. Although I wouldn't join start practicing until next week since I hate the current track. We could be teammates :D
 
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