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Is 16GB of Vram The Standard For High End Graphic Cards?
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Caporegime
I'm not spending £500 on a card with 8GB of VRAM, again......"
If i don't think 8GB is enough for my current card then i have an advantage here, i don't need the lessons of hindsight, i can avoid that all together.
If i don't think 8GB is enough for my current card then i have an advantage here, i don't need the lessons of hindsight, i can avoid that all together.
Soldato
^^
but but but.... FC 6!!!!!!!!!!
In all seriousness though, well said.
I'm looking forward to 3090 matching/beating performance for £500 with the 4060.....
I know, but one game a year after people bought the 10GB 3080. Just highlights the tribalism and hate for folk that did well on 3080's with early AIB's and FE's. Definitely green for the 3080 green saving the green.
I see there's a thread currently titled along the lines of' £799 doesn't feel a too stupid a price for a 3070ti. To an early 3080 owner is really is a stupid price for a 3070ti. Seems so many have been conditioned in one gen for next gen cards with next gen pricing. Still, if and when mining goes pop no one will want all these rubbishy 10GB 3080's. Garbage they are
Soldato
If i don't think 8GB is enough for my current card then i have an advantage here, i don't need the lessons of hindsight, i can avoid that all together.
The positive thing about using more vram on a card and higher textures is that your fps don't take a dump like they do with using ray tracing to improve the visual experience, https://youtu.be/6JxLlRqeOX0?t=92 (Although I recognise in return that ray tracing gives a different experience that many people like). My issue with the 3080 isn't the amount of vram as you can lower settings to get it running well, rather its the amount of electricity it uses, even more so with the 3080ti
Soldato
I'm not spending £500 on a card with 8GB of VRAM, again......"
If i don't think 8GB is enough for my current card then i have an advantage here, i don't need the lessons of hindsight, i can avoid that all together.
Where's your quote from?
Soldato
Boo hoo hoo.
The hate/tribalism is born from arogant tones:
Anything bar an FE doesn't count-no one paid up to £1300+
10gbs plenty
An idiot there paid x amount
10gbs plenty
FE's are super easy to get-despite them being in stock for 5 mins max on any random day once per month.
10gbs plenty
If your not in the FE club, you're a clown for not being able to even get a sniff of them.
10gbs plenty
Why dud you purchase an overpriced aib as FE's are super easy to get
Oh and the answer to the 10gb question is rt is crap on AMD anyway.
However, don't notice pages and pages of whining 'but our RT'ing will do', seriously, Nv users can't even accept other Nv users turn off RT'ing so they get higher fps never mind AMD users.
I'm pretty happy running my 70/80, I can handle the fact my gpu's have more than enough grunt @1440p/4K to run FC6-but the vram can be insufficient, it directly causes at the very least stuttering problems all the way up to the 'debatable' collapse of performance in scenes that include active RT'ing in FC6-which almost if not always is met with the retort of, system error with the added 'But AMD can't run rt'ing anyway'
As I said, I don't see any of the select hardcore Rdna2 user base going in hard with pages and pages of how Rt'ing is enough/it'll do but I only paid day 1 pricing each time it's mentioned, have you?
Soldato
I don't have an FE. Though the FE/AIB ownership poll on this forum I think favours the FE. I have a Zotac OC which I paid £850 for in Sept 2020, maybe £100 over RRP?
Read post #100 for the point I was trying to make prior.
People are paying £1250 for 3080's albeit 12GB versions but I was on about the 3090 regarding £100+ and 3080's were going for loads more on ebay. Folk on here got £1600+ @ cex.
Never said "10GB is plenty". What I did say is that in the 14 months before FC6 came out it was enough. I lost 1GB coming from a 1080ti. I did expect more to be honest but it was GDDR6X which doubles the I/O throughput compared to GDDR6, moving two bits of information at a time. Though there seems to be no measurable difference between 6 & 6x, maybe it doesn't impact gaming.
Until FC6 a full 13/14 months later than 3080 release, there was no VRAM issues in any games. But there is 13/14 months of people buying 10GB as there was no 12GB or Ti. No issues, just 90% of the performance of something twice as much.
I turn off RT too, unless it's implemented/plays well or DLSS mitigates. Why would the happy people with RT be whining? Who cant accept some people turn it off, where have you imagined this.
The PS5 version of FC6 is stuttering. FC5, Primal and New Dawn all had HD texture packs - they run fine. And FC6 doesn't look any more detailed than FC5 - RT does enhance as expected. No one is saying the VRAM is sufficient for FC6 if the game demands it. Only problem is they lost a few sales as people will wait to play the game. Not anyone with any sense plays a AAA game on release as they are all but triple Alpha. Though since a patch or two one user finds it OK.
6 friends I know since Xmas have got an FE 1st try, via telegram. Maybe those that are successful have jobs that allow them to check and action alerts. If your job requires to be unable to move away from what you are doing for a few minutes then I guess you'll miss out. No one's a clown. 3090's hang about all day now.
Was watching Jays2cents yesterday and he showed a shop where many AIB's were at MSRP. Was the in US though.
Soldato
Farcry 6 was released a year after the 3080..
This is one of the reasons why the threads get so toxic. People stretch out the facts.
Firstly, it was 'prove it' and no games cause the vram issue. Its not something to lose sleep over. The reason it drags on for so long is unacceptance or 'its only one game'. It doesnt matter how many games to be honest its just one of them things.
Other stuff you mention I agree with Woodsta so dont take it personally but a handful of posters dont seem to take the criticism well and it rolls back on to your previous comment:
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From what I recall this game released yesterday.
Get your asses on the multiplayer and Vram goes back to not mattering (2900XT . 8800GT days).
Get your asses on the multiplayer and Vram goes back to not mattering (2900XT . 8800GT days).
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Close but nay be the cigar!
MW2.
Soldato
Tribalism? Rare footage of TB providing the halftime entertainment at Parkhead...
The pitch has gone downhill sadly since the council retrieved the goal posts AKA traffic cones
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But then people would start threads complaining the GPU doesn't have enough grunt to fully use 24Gb
But then people would start threads complaining the GPU doesn't have enough grunt to fully use 24Gb
48GB VRAM pooled in my system with dual 3090s and still could do with more VRAM sometimes than grunt right now for my work. Gaming is well soon to require 16GB for proper 4K texture packs in games that push the limits and anyone that mods games or uses flight sim add-ons will tell you the more VRAM the better. Also the 8K TV push will probably start next year and 4K screens will become less and less for sale as they did with 1080p screens, so forcing next upgrade to 8K and then the PC screens too.
But have a feeling 10-12GB VRAM is going to be the standard for now till new consoles come out with more VRAM it basically comes down to these as we have seen and normally the PC versions of games have a few more higher settings just to keep ahead. End of the day most games companies are going to try target the larger audience of hardware available in the wild and with consumers and 8GB is really looking like the standard for now for VRAM for high settings and ultra 10GB-12GB. Next round of GPUs may move this up by 2GB and making 10GB the high setting in games and 8GB medium-high.
4090s are said to have 24GB again so they are off the table for me and the power use is silly on them and SLI/NVLINK for two of them for 48GB VRAM pooling will be silly, better off with a A-series card with more VRAM than mess around with 1200w of GPU power in that sort of setup will be just daft in a normal pc case, will end up having to use server cases with delta fans that sound like concord taking off and sticking the pc in another room.. no thanks.
I see my next upgrade being when they come back down to 300-350w a card with more VRAM at least 48GB on each card. I see how this mess is going to go next time 3.5-4 slot cards as standard and 5 slot extreme cards or special water-cooled cards with a giant water block and still some fan on it at the card area and then a thick radiator with 3 fans screaming all the time.
Can't wait for the 3090ti reviews and the heat it produces and the silly power use for these versions, 480w out of the box but sure they will do 600w with a oc BIOS for some models if not more.
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12GB GDDR6X is more than enough.
Really......
4k has only really taken of in the last 2-3 years and if looking at it from a PC gaming perspective, make that the last 1-2 years, more so since RDNA 2 and ampere along with FSR/DLSS has made 4k gaming somewhat more of a reality now (if it weren't for DLSS/FSR, we would still be chasing 4k60 with max/high settings....). 8k is not going to be a thing anytime soon bearing in mind that 4k was first announced/released in 2012 iirc. Heck it could be argued that 4k is still pretty niche for PC gamers:
And either way, as you said yourself, 8k won't even be a serious thing until the next consoles or even the consoles after that....
Since getting my QD-OLED 3440x1440 display yesterday, I'll be gaming more on this now than my 4k lg oled going forward, as despite being a lesser res., "overall" the IQ is superior and more enjoyable experience. Still going to upgrade to 40xx series for the much better RT grunt
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According to steam survey for vram:
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Caporegime
Really......
4k has only really taken of in the last 2-3 years and if looking at it from a PC gaming perspective, make that the last 1-2 years, more so since RDNA 2 and ampere along with FSR/DLSS has made 4k gaming somewhat more of a reality now (if it weren't for DLSS/FSR, we would still be chasing 4k60 with max/high settings....). 8k is not going to be a thing anytime soon bearing in mind that 4k was first announced/released in 2012 iirc. Heck it could be argued that 4k is still pretty niche for PC gamers:
And either way, as you said yourself, 8k won't even be a serious thing until the next consoles or even the consoles after that....
Since getting my QD-OLED 3440x1440 display yesterday, I'll be gaming more on this now than my 4k lg oled going forward, as despite being a lesser res., "overall" the IQ is superior and more enjoyable experience. Still going to upgrade to 40xx series for the much better RT grunt
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According to steam survey for vram:
The amount of people who own 1440P - 4K capable GPU's is not much greater than the amount of people who own those screens so this argument doesn't hold up, the majority of 3080 or even 3070 owners are not running 1080P screens.
I never said otherwise?
The 2 points of that post were:
- vram according to steam for info
- 8k is not going to suddenly become the go to when it gets released
For what it's worth though, I would say more people own 3060/3070 kind of gpus than 3080 and especially 3090s for 1440p and probably even 4k tbh.
Might be worthwhile someone creating a thread with a poll to see what kind of gpu and res. people on here use?
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