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Is 8GB of Vram enough for the 3070
- Thread starter chaparral
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Man I don't remember. Just pulling your leg anyway. Don't you see the smileys?
People tried to tell you, 8gb is not enough. But you was not having it
All the 8GB and 10GB cards were heading down this route soon as we all knew and it was clearly planned obsolescence by Nvidia to make sure you update soon again, they gave the FE 3060ti,3070,3070ti and 3080 for a sensible price for a reason because they knew next round of games will show their limitations due to low VRAM and why they later introduced a 3080 12GB at the real price that was $1000 msrp, $300 more than the 10gb and the 3080ti with 12GB for $1200 FE models of course and AIBs were way more as we saw.
Just scary to see 1080p is now not enough on 8GB cards and 1440p same on 3080 10GB by the looks of them games. Well the cards were good value if you got them at msrp otherwise not so sure it was worth it and reality is you can turn down settings but don't expect ultra settings any more on them it seems, because the dreaded Low VRAM message will come up. Nvidia knew what they were doing
.Still ace cards and really is just a matter of knocking a few settings down and not stress over it, next round prices and power use may make you feel happy you got one at msrp and lower power use on the 30 series.
Yeah. The cards held up better than I was expecting though to be honest. New cards are not far off and I am almost sure 16gb will be standard for this class of GPU.All the 8GB and 10GB cards were heading down this route soon as we all knew and it was clearly planned obsolescence by Nvidia to make sure you update soon again, they gave the FE 3060ti,3070,3070ti and 3080 for a sensible price for a reason because they knew next round of games will show their limitations due to low VRAM and why they later introduced a 3080 12GB at the real price that was $1000 msrp, $300 more than the 10gb and the 3080ti with 12GB for $1200 FE models of course and AIBs were way more as we saw.
Just scary to see 1080p is now not enough on 8GB cards and 1440p same on 3080 10GB by the looks of them games. Well the cards were good value if you got them at msrp otherwise not so sure it was worth it and reality is you can turn down settings but don't expect ultra settings any more on them it seems, because the dreaded Low VRAM message will come up. Nvidia knew what they were doing
Still ace cards and really is just a matter of knocking a few settings down and not stress over it, next round prices and power use may make you feel happy you got one at msrp and lower power use on the 30 series.
Looking forward to the 4070/80. Hopefully they will have a lot more RT grunt.
I'm saying the 4070 and 4070ti will be 12GB.
4060ti maybe 10-12GB.
4060 maybe 12GB again from start or 16GB as they sell them as work/creative type cards for people that don't game but need the VRAM and grunt of a dGPU.
4080 will probably start with 12GB knowing Nvidia and then 16GB models for the 4080ti and the 4080 family special 16GB.
Could be. I can’t see a 4080 having anything less than 16GB though.
I will be going for a 4080 as long as the price is not more than $799. This is assuming it will be a decent chunk better than a 3090 Ti though. Wont use £ in my guess/expectation as the pound is sinking fast at the moment and who knows what it will be by then.
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I somehow don't see 12GB as enough even on the 4060, surely a 4060 is going to be roughly par with the 3070...
The 2080 Ti is also hitting Vram limits in RE2R with RT.
The 2080 Ti is also hitting Vram limits in RE2R with RT.
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Is this the same Tired as a few months back?
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The same tired who don't believe anything on the internet unless he tries it himself yes and I maintain that wall with great immovability, until I tried it and confirmned it. Logical and concrete.
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Unless your posting with mammoth chunks of irony, Im glad your seeing the light regarding the vram stance!
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All the 8GB and 10GB cards were heading down this route soon as we all knew and it was clearly planned obsolescence by Nvidia to make sure you update soon again, they gave the FE 3060ti,3070,3070ti and 3080 for a sensible price for a reason because they knew next round of games will show their limitations due to low VRAM and why they later introduced a 3080 12GB at the real price that was $1000 msrp, $300 more than the 10gb and the 3080ti with 12GB for $1200 FE models of course and AIBs were way more as we saw.
Just scary to see 1080p is now not enough on 8GB cards and 1440p same on 3080 10GB by the looks of them games. Well the cards were good value if you got them at msrp otherwise not so sure it was worth it and reality is you can turn down settings but don't expect ultra settings any more on them it seems, because the dreaded Low VRAM message will come up. Nvidia knew what they were doing
Still ace cards and really is just a matter of knocking a few settings down and not stress over it, next round prices and power use may make you feel happy you got one at msrp and lower power use on the 30 series.
Not gonna go down well with the usual crowd, something I got flamed for tbh but nice to see some other characters building up the courage a few months later!
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Unless your posting with mammoth chunks of irony, Im glad your seeing the light regarding the vram stance!
I am just not easily fooled, and with everything I have tested with it is absolutely within the normal usage of an RTX 3070 so I do declare it as final It's not enough.
I did not own the games that smashed the Vram so hard so that is a major factor.
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As you post your footage its nice to see what your experiencing, yet something we knew about ten months back
. I am however perturbed that there has been no requests for official sources or any debunkery and shocked with the lack of local system issue claims from our resident captains.
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No they would rather blame everyone and everything else, kinda like the plebs with Ryzen 2700X and 3080 wondering why they stutter and ave low GPU usage..As you post your footage its nice to see what your experiencing, yet something we knew about ten months back
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Was I the only one?Don’t think anyone but Tired9 was championing 8gb being enough as I recall. Even Saul was laughing at the idea I think
I did make a case that it only matters as to what games you are running and in all fairness back hen all games I was running had no Vram issues, FC6 and RE2 now with RT.. yeah that's 2, not tried RE3 yet but I imagine it's the same if not worse.
Yea, I don’t remember anyone else. Me and Nexus hang out in the 3080 10GB thread
Even in that my case from the start when the 3080 came out was 10gb would be enough in all but a handful of games until next gen cards were out. So I was right in the end it seems, unless they get majorly delayed and a bunch more games that need more vram come out
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Nope, Saul was telling me how I was doing it wrong on my 3070 too.Don’t think anyone but Tired9 was championing 8gb being enough as I recall. Even Saul was laughing at the idea I think
My first post in this thread October 2020:
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Yup I have always said that 8gb would be "potentially" an issue for 1440p sooner than later and definitely not enough at 4k.Don’t think anyone but Tired9 was championing 8gb being enough as I recall. Even Saul was laughing at the idea I think
The only games I questioned another 3070 owners experience was on titles where there had been no reports by anyone else or sites expressing issues with some titles, iirc was rdr 2, metro and some other older games.
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This was it here, full story here for anyone who really cares before the usual suspects selectively quote snippets to suit said narrative:
True, I can't speak from first hand experience anymore since upgrading from my vega 56 to the 3080 but I know the games well and what certain cards are capable of and what settings to look out for
If you're having issues because of vram, it's rather simple to fix, you just reduce settings, mostly any kind of texture or/and shader setting to remove the vram bottleneck, chances are, you probably won't even notice the difference dropping from "ultra" to very high/high texture etc. setting(s) anyway. When I played cp2077 on my vega 56, I encountered vram issues i.e. frame latency and micro stuttering was all over the place but the fps I was getting was crap too due to the lack of grunt (even without ray tracing since no support for the vega 56), around 40 fps thus I had to reduce settings to get the fps range I was happy with i.e. at least 60 fps, which in return solved the vram usage this removed the issues with the inconsistent frame latency too.
Essentially, Vram and raw grunt go hand in hand, sure, it would have been nice for both the 70 and 80 to have more vram but ultimately, the 3070 having an extra 2GB would not have made that "much" of a difference to its perf., likewise with the 3080 having 2gb more vram, as evidenced on this page with the comparisons of the 12gb model to the standard 10gb model (tldr: performance difference between them is all from the MSI AIB 12gb model having a much higher boost clock and better specs across the board)....
Just watch the videos above showing 3080 vs 3070ti and 3070 perf. too, a 3080 is a rather substantial improvement over a 3070ti 8gb regardless of vram being used..... A 3070/ti for an acceptable experience (imo) will have to reduce settings regardless of its vram usage, again, subjective this though as everyone is happy with different fps levels, most noticeable and important figures is the lower end i.e. 40-50 fps is a noticeable jump, more so than going from 110-120 fps.
Don't disagree, dlss when it first launched was a pos but what does that matter now? Not to mention when it first launched, 8gb was perfectly fine back in those days so there wasn't as much of a need for it.... It's superb now.
Direct storage should in theory reduce vram usage too, problem is, we probably won't see any games anytime soon and likely will have the 50xx series of cards then.....
Maybe tired9 can do some testing on them if he has them but be careful, certain individuals don't take kindly when proven wrong
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At least you can admit to arguing for the sake of arguing with owners of the hardware telling them they were doing it wrong, the above were just some of the examples.