Is 8GB of Vram enough for the 3070

[Joxeon]

Has to be joking right @LtMatt @tommybhoy @Poneros

The point is you'll be able to get around it whether that be drop settings or resolution etc while the 6500XT doesn't have anything to drop as its already below the minimum threshold and this for a card that released over a year after a 3070.

Also don't forget the 3070 is half the price of this.

 

[gpuerrilla]

The point is you'll be able to get around it whether that be drop settings or resolution etc while the 6500XT doesn't have anything to drop as its already below the minimum threshold and this for a card that released over a year after a 3070.

Also don't forget the 3070 is half the price of this.

Oh silly me. I thought the thread is about the 3070... your straw manning and bringing in the 6500 in your own discussion there jox.

 

[Grim5]

Atleast the game will play though but just means binning RT which I'm sure won't bother some here, the 6500XT however probably won't be able to run the game at all.

the preset where they say you need a 5500xt, yeah that's 720p low settings 30fps lmao, so yeah goodbye 6500xt nice knowing ya. For 1080p 60fps it says you need a GTX1080/ti

 

[Harlequin]

Thought this was a thread about the £799 RTX 3070 not the £178 6500XT?

 

[Grim5]

• OS: 64-BIT WINDOWS 10 VERSION 1909 OR HIGHER
• PROCESSOR: CORE i7 8700 OR AMD RYZEN 5 5600X
• MEMORY: 16 GB
• GRAPHICS: NVIDIA RTX 3080 (VRAM 10 GB+) OR AMD RX 6900 XT (VRAM 12 GB+)
• STORAGE: 20 GB AVAILABLE SPACE (SSD)
• DIRECTX: VERSION 12
• DLSS (NVIDIA): QUALITY/ FSR 1.0 (AMD): BALANCED

1 of the Ray Tracing settings, not great if you bought an RTX 3070

lit says you can still use RT on 3070 for resolutions between 1080p and 1440p but for over 1440p you need at least 10gb vram on Nvidia and 12gb vram with AMD which the 3070 doesn't have

 

[Harlequin]

lit says you can still use RT on 3070 for resolutions between 1080p and 1440p but for over 1440p you need at least 10gb vram which the 3070 doesn't have

So your saying the 3070 is a 1080p card?

 

[Joxeon]

Oh silly me. I thought the thread is about the 3070... your straw manning and bringing in the 6500 in your own discussion there jox.

Yeah and the 3070 is fine for what it is, a mid range card with a mid range price. You can't expect not to have the make compromises but atleast the game will run fine with those compromises unlike with a certain newer GPU.

 

[Joxeon]

Thought this was a thread about the £799 RTX 3070 not the £178 6500XT?

The 3070 was £469 as far as I'm aware, if people want to spend more than that then it's their choice.

 

[TNA]

So your saying the 3070 is a 1080p card?

720p at best.

 

[humbug]

The 3070 is a bit *Meh* its 20 to 25% faster than my card and has the same memory layout.

Its just deeply unimpressive for someone on an older "mid range card" The only thing it has going for it is that you can't really say it bad, its just meh....

 

[Harlequin]

The 3070 was £469 as far as I'm aware, if people want to spend more than that then it's their choice.

Ofc, and those FE cards - all 10 of them, once every 2 months at best. So a mythical product as every tech tuber says.

 

[Joxeon]

The 3070 is a bit *Meh* its 20 to 25% faster than my card and has the same memory layout.

Its just deeply unimpressive for someone on an older "mid range card"

That's still better than those lower down the stack even at MSRP pricing, 6600XT same price and performance as a 5700XT, 6600 18% more expensive than a 5600XT for 6% extra performance and ofcourse the 6500XT which is just rubbish.

 

[TNA]

The 3070 is a bit *Meh* its 20 to 25% faster than my card and has the same memory layout.

Its just deeply unimpressive for someone on an older "mid range card" The only thing it has going for it is that you can't really say it bad, its just meh....

Can’t complain for £469 though. Using DLSS I was able to play Dying Light 2 with RT on, so the card did well for me. Not long for the 4070 anyway, that’s where it will be at. Hopefully £499 for the FE and with 16gb.

 

[Joxeon]

Ofc, and those FE cards - all 10 of them, once every 2 months at best. So a mythical product as every tech tuber says.

The AIB cards would be those prices as well if people had some restraint and voted with their wallets.

 

[humbug]

That's still better than those lower down the stack even at MSRP pricing, 6600XT same price and performance as a 5700XT, 6600 18% more expensive than a 5600XT for 6% extra performance and ofcourse the 6500XT which is just rubbish.

Yeah, you're right, its why i'm not going to bother with one of those either, not unless by some miracle the RX 6800 comes down to £450.

This whole generation are just too expensive for what they are.

 

[humbug]

Can’t complain for £469 though. Using DLSS I was able to play Dying Light 2 with RT on, so the card did well for me. Not long for the 4070 anyway, that’s where it will be at. Hopefully £499 for the FE and with 16gb.

DLSS is not a selling point for me, if it can't do it native its not good enough, "image quality down scalers" are not a substitute for weak GPU's. Not to me.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Ofc, and those FE cards - all 10 of them, once every 2 months at best. So a mythical product as every tech tuber says.

He is bending the narrative to suit again. What about the past year where people were paying £700-800 for AIB ones, why do these units never count? The only saving grace here is the 6700 is/was also a dog of a price so AMD were equally poor.

 

[Harlequin]

The AIB cards would be those prices as well if people had some restraint and voted with their wallets.

No they wouldnt be. The high end AIB cards have never , ever been anything like MSRP - only the cut to the bone with the cheapest coolers versions have ever come close. Anyway the FE coolers are not the best by a long shot.

 

[Joxeon]

He is bending the narrative to suit again. What about the past year where people were paying £700-800 for AIB ones, why do these units never count? The only saving grace here is the 6700 is/was also a dog of a price so AMD were equally poor.

How is it bending the narrative when cards have been available for MSRP over the past 18 months. No one was forced into paying more for a GPU to use for gaming and it was solely their own choice.

I've bought 2 cards in the last 18 months for MSRP, 1AIB and 1FE. Would I pay £800 for a 3070? Not a chance as I don't feel the 3070 is worth £800 and I would rather go without than pay for a product which I feel doesn't justify the cost but unfortunately there are clearly some people who do value a 3070 at £800 and those are the people that probably don't understand about the cards limitations.

Maybe the title should read "is 8gb VRAM enough for a 3070 AIB model costing £800+" because a lot of people seem to see the AIB price as the bigger issue rather than the actual VRAM in which I feel 8gb is acceptable for a card costing £469 and the other option of 16gb would have likely pushed the MSRP price above £600 yet with no real fps benefit in the majority of games.

 

[humbug]

How is it bending the narrative when cards have been available for MSRP over the past 18 months. No one was forced into paying more for a GPU to use for gaming and it was solely their own choice.

I've bought 2 cards in the last 18 months for MSRP, 1AIB and 1FE. Would I pay £800 for a 3070? Not a chance as I don't feel the 3070 is worth £800 and I would rather go without than pay for a product which I feel doesn't justify the cost but unfortunately there are clearly some people who do value a 3070 at £800 and those are the people that probably don't understand about the cards limitations.

Maybe the title should read "is 8gb VRAM enough for a 3070 AIB model costing £800+" because a lot of people seem to see the AIB price as the bigger issue rather than the actual VRAM in which I feel 8gb is acceptable for a card costing £469 and the other option of 16gb would have likely pushed the MSRP price above £600 yet with no real fps benefit in the majority of games.

Why should 16GB cost £600?