Is 8k for home cinema absolutely pointless?

aoaaron · 26 Jul 2020 at 02:53

HRL said:
You must be compromising on the audio or something.

I’ve got 1080P rips that are over 10Gb, never mind 4K.

I agree. I'd say a good 1:1 blu-ray rip is still 20-40GB, but each to their own. If they can't see the difference between a 5gb rip and a 50GB rip, then its a hell of a lot of hard drive space saved. I can personally see the difference is startling in terms of clarity and level of detail.

Some films just are very soft though, regardless of the bitrate. I was quite dissapointed in the new Aladdin film which was so soft. Also preferred the SDR colour grade.

HRL · 26 Jul 2020 at 14:52

aoaaron said:
most films which star Scarlett Johansson as the lead have incredibly sharpness and clarity which need to be watched at reference level detail.

theone8181 · 26 Jul 2020 at 19:38

HRL said:

Can't disagree with choice

. I'm looking forward to a black widow film.

aoaaron · 2 Aug 2020 at 20:49

HRL said:

Haha its insane. Its like 'hey we have a beautiful hot woman, lets up our video quality to the maximum for her'. The only film which hasn't done this is marriage story.

elroberto · 7 Aug 2020 at 22:21

Mr_Sukebe said:
Is there any content recorded in 8k?
I got the impression that the majority of the more recently filmed films were using 4k capable cameras.
I knew a chap who worked in CGI and he was saying that some CGI clips even now aren't in 4k because of the processing costs.

So whilst the screen might be interesting, I'm not sure if there's any material capable of being replayed, not unless you revisit old 70mm again to re-digitise, or simply rely on new recordings. Anything filmed in digital in the last however long would simply be being upscaled.

Its's been increasing over the last few years. Blackmagic even launched a 12k canera for about £10k. The majority of productions will be 8k+ within the next couple of years.

rubberduck · 7 Aug 2020 at 23:04

elroberto said:
Its's been increasing over the last few years. Blackmagic even launched a 12k canera for about £10k. The majority of productions will be 8k+ within the next couple of years.

So assuming we can keep adding more pixels via resolution increases... 480, 720, 1080, 4K, 8K.... And assuming the size of a home cinema screen doesn't increase much beyond 200 inches... When do we hit a brick wall in terms of increased resolution yielding no increase in visual fidelity?

elroberto · 8 Aug 2020 at 21:53

rubberduck said:
So assuming we can keep adding more pixels via resolution increases... 480, 720, 1080, 4K, 8K.... And assuming the size of a home cinema screen doesn't increase much beyond 200 inches... When do we hit a brick wall in terms of increased resolution yielding no increase in visual fidelity?

To be honest with typical homesizes and viewing distances 8k probably is the reasonable limit as screen sizes are unlikely to be feasible at 100"+ for most in the future. Then it'll be a race for quality technologies within that pixel space. For production it is actually beneficial to shoot at a higher res imagewise than your eventual output