Is anyone happy with F1?
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Man of Honour
Couldn't agree more. They just seem completely unable to make a 'balanced' tyre.
Nobody has been asked to make a balanced tyre.
Man of Honour
I am asking them
I should rephrase then. FIA seem unwilling to sanction a balanced tyre.
Exactly. I do sort of feel for Pirelli. Only a little bit though, as the complete inability to make a tyre capable of lasting a stint without exploding was entirely their own doing. But at the end of the day they are building what the FIA are asking them to build.
The more we step back and look at the overall picture, the more it comes to light that the root cause of all F1s issues is the FIA.
In my opinion with how aero is now the flakey tyresat lleast provide some overtaking chances.
Drs would be even more important without this tyre range
Kers just has to have lot more power and be made tactical.
I picture it like this
Person being caught uses kers to stay ahead for X seconds a lap,
person behind can stick with this so does not need to use his at same time,
Person being caught runs out of kers,
Person behind is faster and uses kers and is able to overtake
Drs would be even more important without this tyre range
Kers just has to have lot more power and be made tactical.
I picture it like this
Person being caught uses kers to stay ahead for X seconds a lap,
person behind can stick with this so does not need to use his at same time,
Person being caught runs out of kers,
Person behind is faster and uses kers and is able to overtake
Soldato
And all of this, is why I have found NASCAR to be more interesting, even though all they do is turn left.. at least there is a lot more action on the track.. and twisted metal..
I did try and watch the NNS and your right, it can be pretty good.
However, it can have its share of dull as hell races too (I watched something like 150+ laps of Bristol without a caution, I mean what the heck?!), and the poor coverage over here makes it quite difficult to commit too.
V8 Supercars is also pretty dam good, but the MotorTV coverage is on at odd times and the low definition of that channel does my nut.
Best action is always the BTCC though. Excellent HD coverage, great racing.
(Notice none of the above series are governed by the FIA..... hmmm)
However, it can have its share of dull as hell races too (I watched something like 150+ laps of Bristol without a caution, I mean what the heck?!), and the poor coverage over here makes it quite difficult to commit too.
V8 Supercars is also pretty dam good, but the MotorTV coverage is on at odd times and the low definition of that channel does my nut.
Best action is always the BTCC though. Excellent HD coverage, great racing.
(Notice none of the above series are governed by the FIA..... hmmm)
Soldato
Soldato
Heartland Park Topeka was one of my favourites.
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Well, why not? Damned sight more interesting than F1 is right now. Damned sight less dismaying as well
Soldato
There's a couple of things that I find more interesting in Nascar, not least the crashes which sometimes can be pretty spectacular.
The open radios, in F1 all you get are little snippets that are given to the media by FOM, whereas NASCAR has open radio systems, which means the media can pick up on every little thing (hence the controversy that got Jeff Gordon into the chase). It allows for much more of the personality to come across.
The pit stops, I actually like the fact that stock cars have proper wheel mounts, and that a pit stop takes over 10 seconds most of the time. It mixes things up, unlike F1 where cars barely stop before all the tyres are changed.
Nascar is an event, a spectacle, and is truly for the fans, whereas f1 is about as fan friendly as a rock.
The open radios, in F1 all you get are little snippets that are given to the media by FOM, whereas NASCAR has open radio systems, which means the media can pick up on every little thing (hence the controversy that got Jeff Gordon into the chase). It allows for much more of the personality to come across.
The pit stops, I actually like the fact that stock cars have proper wheel mounts, and that a pit stop takes over 10 seconds most of the time. It mixes things up, unlike F1 where cars barely stop before all the tyres are changed.
Nascar is an event, a spectacle, and is truly for the fans, whereas f1 is about as fan friendly as a rock.
Soldato
Sounds about right to me. With refuelling u have to pit multiple times so tires dont matter at all. That is the main problem.
Well, why not? Damned sight more interesting than F1 is right now. Damned sight less dismaying as well
One thing I find interesting is that out of the 6 rookies in Nascar Cup next year, only Michael Annett is bringing sponsorship. Everyone else is being hired on talent. Something that F1 team owners would do well to take note of.
So basically back to the 90s with numbers of overtakes you can count on one hand? No thanks.
Exactly. NASCAR has the Entertainment bit nailed. I love how the comentators know all the settings and adjustments that are going to be made in the pits, and the conversations that the drivers and crew chiefs have had to come to those settings.
And the pit stops are bloody impressive, considering there's 5 nuts per wheel and they only do 1 side at a time. The speed of them is incredible.
I just don't get how people seem to have forgotten this. On track overtakes in the early 00's was down to an average of less than 1 per driver per race. Races were competed through fuel strategy. The actual act of driving the car was just to join a queue and wait for the next strategic fuel stop.
However, being tyre limited is not brilliant either. Like DRS, its a lesser of 2 evils. 'Manage your tyres' and DRS passes are ****, but they are slightly less **** than overtakes in the pits and endless Trulli Trains.
Why not fix the aerodynamic wake?