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Is ASIC quality reliable ?

What are you on about? My lowest Asic card (71%) clocks higher under water with more volts. My other card has an Asic quality of 81%. It clocks well but nothing special on air or water.

I find it hard to believe you carried on arguing, when you clearly showed you had no idea of how the Asic quality is supposed to be read. You should have apologised and moved on.

Thats what ive been saying all along :\ so how am i wrong? You have just proved high score means nothing good day sir.
 
Thats what ive been saying all along :\ so how am i wrong? You have just proved high score means nothing good day sir.

The post I linked to earlier shows that lower Asic cards generally clock better under water. As you can't grasp this concept and are making it up as you go along, I give up.
 
So lower asic cards work better at lower temps?

tempting to setup a custom loop. if only funds would allow :(

In testing, yes. My better clocking card under water performed roughly the same or just a tad lower than the other under air.

I can get quite a few extra points in 3DMark with the lower asic scoring card on the same (ramped up) volts (if that makes sense).

Swap your mobo and CPU before going water cooled :) You will not regret it.
 
Thats what ive been saying all along :\ so how am i wrong? You have just proved high score means nothing good day sir.

Because you can't let go of how you think a high score should mean good.

It doesn't work that way. Low ASIC cards seemingly overclock better, but run hotter, so need better cooling to take advantage of that.

The ASIC percentage is NOT a good/bad metric.
 
I do understand this spoffle but like i said low or high its still random how well they clock on whatever cooling they have! Its not all about Asic score.
 
No one has said it's all about ASIC, and the fact that you keep saying it's a score shows you think it's a rating on how good your card is.

It's not a score, it's a reading, and there's a correlation in that lower ASIC cards will tend to overclock better than high ASIC cards, the caveat being that the lower ASIC cards run hotter so need better cooling to take advantage of it.

It's not meaningless or random, the data is there that strongly suggests and even proves this to be the case. If you have a rubbish card (card, not GPU) that will override anything to do with ASIC as the limiting factor.
 
Doesn't ASIC quality kind of work out similar to PSU efficiency (in the end result)? You could have 2 PSUs rated at 500W, a 60% efficient one and a 90% efficient one, but the 60% one might actually be able to supply more power even though it draws more power and produces more heat.

With GPUs it would mean a high ASIC card will run cooler/use less power, but it might still be a very poor overclocker, just a cooler running poor overclocker :P Heat isn't always the limiting factor.
 
No one has said it's all about ASIC, and the fact that you keep saying it's a score shows you think it's a rating on how good your card is.

It's not a score, it's a reading, and there's a correlation in that lower ASIC cards will tend to overclock better than high ASIC cards, the caveat being that the lower ASIC cards run hotter so need better cooling to take advantage of it.

It's not meaningless or random, the data is there that strongly suggests and even proves this to be the case. If you have a rubbish card (card, not GPU) that will override anything to do with ASIC as the limiting factor.

So if you are right them MSI OC cards should have really low Asic scores as they are the best overclockers so far?
 
wow this is still going on........
seriously weehamish how on earth do u not understand it by now its been explained to u so many times and in so many different ways!
if u dont understand it then fine but seriously give it up someone or yourself decided asic reading is a direct measure or "guess" at how ocable a card is and thats not how it works its been explained to u many times u either cant understand it (not sure why its been explained very clearly) or your simply trolling.
either way stop wasting people's time.
 
ASIC reading is generally pretty meangingless anyway unless you've had a play with several different cards of the same type with different ASIC values to get a feel for what its telling you.
 
Seriously are you for real?

wow this is still going on........
seriously weehamish how on earth do u not understand it by now its been explained to u so many times and in so many different ways!
if u dont understand it then fine but seriously give it up someone or yourself decided asic reading is a direct measure or "guess" at how ocable a card is and thats not how it works its been explained to u many times u either cant understand it (not sure why its been explained very clearly) or your simply trolling.
either way stop wasting people's time.

+1
 
ASIC reading is generally pretty meangingless anyway unless you've had a play with several different cards of the same type with different ASIC values to get a feel for what its telling you.

Thats what i dont get i have 2 7970s atm both different scores and they both OC the same so far at stock volts.

Both are identical even though have different scores.

Just because some people go into scientific explantions doesnt mean its anything good its still pointless, if a high and low scored asic can do the same thing on the same coolers it doesnt mean anything, you can say it leaks voltages bla bla but they still do the same thing and the temps difference must be minor.
 
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you have decided that the asic score = how good it overclocks and as for the last 4 pages people are telling u its not that it relates to voltages which loosely relates to oc in a non direct way unlike how u see it.

bla blah bla no wonder u dont understand dont come into a conversation unless ur gonna here both sides being ignorant and blanking stuff out u dont understand doesnt make u right. must they be? do u have proof? even if it is minor it still makes a difference so it technically works then.
 
im not getting into this with u as its pointless argue as much as u wish but the people who know and understand know the others will learn through listening and research.
be careful because when u truly need help,advice or knowledge on something people wont help you because all u do is argue or/and insult rather than listening then putting over a educated converstation.
 
Thats what im saying so if its not the main thing its pointless as it is a minor factor in OCing so its nothing really to worry about.

I have listend but you 3 are arguing it does this and that, when in fact its pretty pointless.

Doesnt matter about voltage leaking or nothing at the end of the day it has no "real" affect on OCing which is what this thread was about.
 
pointless to YOU

saying its pointless/useless is not true whatsoever.
and yes it does have a effect jesus do u even read any of the responses volts=heat and last time i checked heat is a rather large part of oc'ing
 
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