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Is HyperThreading worth the extra £80?

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So it looks like the 3770k will be £80 more than the 3570k.

As far as I know the only difference between the chips is HyperThreading. So basically I'm asking myself if I should pay £80 for HyperThreading.

Now, I know it's currently useless for gaming, but what about in the future? In 2 years time, would games be making use of this technology?
 
Does the 2600K / 3770K / Hyper Threading offer any advantage to programming in Eclipse and creating virtual Android devices? If it would be quicker on an i7 would it be much quicker?
 
thenewoc said:
Does the 2600K / 3770K / Hyper Threading offer any advantage to programming in Eclipse and creating virtual Android devices? If it would be quicker on an i7 would it be much quicker?
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It seems to offer an advantage to many productivity apps so I'd say it's probable. Have no first hand experience or any benches I can show you to though.

If it did work, I would be almost sure it wouldn't be what I'd call 'much quicker'. Quicker definitely, but not 'much quicker'.
 
thenewoc said:
Does the 2600K / 3770K / Hyper Threading offer any advantage to programming in Eclipse and creating virtual Android devices? If it would be quicker on an i7 would it be much quicker?
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Hard to say, with Eclipse the limitation is normally how fast I can type. Sorry. Your first priority should be RAM: 16GB is not expensive and disk I/O: SSDs are dropping as we speak. If you're on a network then the file server performance might dominate. Reliability is a concern for professional use - I woudn't use an overclocked machine for mission critical - don't forget people are building home PCs on this forum. If you have any money left then maximise the CPU but I'd be amazed if a i5 disappoints.
 
This is my view if extra for HT is worth it.

Back in 2009 I purchased the i5 750 the week it was launched, at the time the entry level i7 1156 was £70 more.

My i5 750 is coming up to 3 years old, and I expect it will be another year before I consider upgrading. By upgrade time the chip will be at least 4 years old.

Now if I spread £70 (what I would have cost me for HT) over the 4 years, then I should have easily spent the extra as HT would have helped with Photoshop and software development.

Next time I upgrade I will definitely buy a i7 over the i5 version. What i'm saying is if your keeping your CPU/Motherboard quite a while then consider the long term and spend the extra.
 
JasonM said:
This is my view if extra for HT is worth it.

Back in 2009 I purchased the i5 750 the week it was launched, at the time the entry level i7 1156 was £70 more.

My i5 750 is coming up to 3 years old, and I expect it will be another year before I consider upgrading. By upgrade time the chip will be at least 4 years old.

Now if I spread £70 (what I would have cost me for HT) over the 4 years, then I should have easily spent the extra as HT would have helped with Photoshop and software development.

Next time I upgrade I will definitely buy a i7 over the i5 version. What i'm saying is if your keeping your CPU/Motherboard quite a while then consider the long term and spend the extra.
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^^ thats a dangerous argument - thats my current argument for going for a 3930k + X79 for less than £200 more than an I7 - ok the extra 2 cores may not be fully used now - but over the next 4 years - probably worth the extra money
 
hmm... I wonder how much more my build would come to if I went SB-E instead of IB. Id be wasting the x16x16 PCI 3 however... as well as the 2 extra cores... doesn't really seem worth the extra £200-300 now that I think on it :/
 
Ollie1132 said:
hmm... I wonder how much more my build would come to if I went SB-E instead of IB. Id be wasting the x16x16 PCI 3 however... as well as the 2 extra cores... doesn't really seem worth the extra £200-300 now that I think on it :/
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its not that much more - you can get reasonable lower-range X79 boards from Gigabyte and Asrock - I reckon less than 200 more
 
Buckster said:
^^ thats a dangerous argument - thats my current argument for going for a 3930k + X79 for less than £200 more than an I7 - ok the extra 2 cores may not be fully used now - but over the next 4 years - probably worth the extra money
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All I meant was for myself looking back, for what would have amounted at under £20 a year (over 4 years), I would have chosen the i7 version of my CPU.

Just pointing out if OP is keeping CPU/Motherboard a while, then OP should consider spending the extra for HT.
 
JasonM said:
All I meant was for myself looking back, for what would have amounted at under £20 a year (over 4 years), I would have chosen the i7 version of my CPU.

Just pointing out if OP is keeping CPU/Motherboard a while, then OP should consider spending the extra for HT.
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+1 I agree- you can always disable it

but you can't enable it on an I5 :)
 
Buckster said:
its not that much more - you can get reasonable lower-range X79 boards from Gigabyte and Asrock - I reckon less than 200 more
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Really? But are X79 boards getting legit PCI 3 certificates any time soon? I know they can have it... if they did Id get X79 and grab a couple of GTX's to SLI at 16x16x... Though the cost of RAM would be a big difference compared to z77 RAM.
 
Ollie1132 said:
Really? But are X79 boards getting legit PCI 3 certificates any time soon? I know they can have it... if they did Id get X79 and grab a couple of GTX's to SLI at 16x16x... Though the cost of RAM would be a big difference compared to z77 RAM.
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you don't have to run in quad channel - you can run in dual/tri or quad :)

I factored that I was going to go 16gb anyway for this build - for future proof ness (and for only 40 more) so it'd be quad for me Z77 or X79
 
Yeah Im going from 8GB to 16GB as well... so I could run 4 sticks of dual channel RAM and that would be fine? I might actually go SB-E instead and if we are lucky they may have refined IB-E so it doesn't double up as a kettle xD
 
You're paying 50% more for i7 and get 2MB more cache as well as HT. Reviews generally show greater performance for i7 but not loads. You might get a better binned part in the silicon lottery.

If it was something that held off a future upgrade (like getting a quad in the Q66 days) then I'd see it as an investment. I don't happen to see giving Intel another £80 (or £260 for hex cores this time) in that way but some might.
 
Ollie1132 said:
Yeah Im going from 8GB to 16GB as well... so I could run 4 sticks of dual channel RAM and that would be fine? I might actually go SB-E instead and if we are lucky they may have refined IB-E so it doesn't double up as a kettle xD
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?? what do you mean by 4 sticks of dual channel RAM

the RAM is DDR3 - 4 channels means 4 sticks - each in one channel

ie 4 sticks of DDR3 (matched) in Z77 = Dual Channel
4 sticks of DDR3 (matched) in X79 = Quad Channel
 
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