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Is HyperThreading worth the extra £80?
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Ah I see. I meant like I know Z77s use Dual channel as in 4 sticks is dual. So if I bought a RAM kit that has two sticks of 4Gb RAM in it and add that to the 2x4Gb I already have that would work Quad channel?
Probably not as they haven't for the past few years. Also by the time they do how much will you be able to pick up a 2nd hand 3770k on the bay? I'm guessing in 3 years it'll be under the £80 difference you'd pay now.
For gaming it'd be a complete waste of money unless you would use it for rendering etc as well.
It hasn't helped that for the reviews we saw last week Intel had sent out loads of i7s - dont blame them though. The 3570K has hardly had any coverage. In reality the 2500K was the big seller last year and with good reason.
What we do with our own money isone thing but anyone coming here for advice we should be careful to be objective.
What we do with our own money isone thing but anyone coming here for advice we should be careful to be objective.
Stepping is the mask - not the physical construction. It's to fix logic errors.
Today's rumour is that it matters not the TIM used. Me, I think its just the substrate's thermal conductivity when faced with heat in such a small area, for what ithat's worth.
If you want something better wait a year for Haswell. What we have now is Ivy.
Today's rumour is that it matters not the TIM used. Me, I think its just the substrate's thermal conductivity when faced with heat in such a small area, for what ithat's worth.
If you want something better wait a year for Haswell. What we have now is Ivy.
Hyper-threading really helps SLI/Crossfire performance in BF3. Future games will probably utilise the Frostbite2 engine, so if you are planning on 2 top end cards I would definitely go for a 2600k over a 3570k.
The next big performance jump will be from Ivy Bridge to Haswell. Not much diff in Ivy v Sandy
The next big performance jump will be from Ivy Bridge to Haswell. Not much diff in Ivy v Sandy
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are there any benches to prove that?
But depending how much extra it is I may get it to do some video editing which I've always wanted to do.
@jwsg I didn't explain that so well, I meant either are feasible possibilities rather than being one of the same issue. I hope an IB will see me alright for a few years and get back onto a tock following Haswell, but preferably a bit further along from release than this time around.
Yep next time we have to remember to switch on a tock but for now we just have to make the best of IB, learn how to clock it etc.
If a new package does come out later this year I for one will be asking for a replacement. I'd be surprised if they have time before haswell to revise the physics/chemistry of the chip itself to bring down temps - they've had long enough already.
If a new package does come out later this year I for one will be asking for a replacement. I'd be surprised if they have time before haswell to revise the physics/chemistry of the chip itself to bring down temps - they've had long enough already.
Can you show me the benches for that please?
I don't have time to find the threads on here but from personal experience a 2700k felt a lot smoother to me and GPU usage was better overall (but not perfect) and it balanced out lag spikes and performance dips. I was supposed to do an in depth test but I don't really have time for it ATM. But using 7970 Xfire I would definitely not go back to a 2500k from a 2700k.
@jwsg, true, i'm thinking a 3570K will probably do me, not to over invest in IB but enough to last 2 or 3 years. We shall see if Haswell turns out any better but I have a feeling that all the time the push is on better igpu that it will disappoint unless AMD pull something better out of the hat.
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The Hyper-Threading bit or the Ivy to Haswell bit? Haswell will be a tock in Intel's tick-tock notion of development. A tock is a new architecture on an existing XXnm platform and this gives a nig performance increase when compared to a tick, which is the same architecture but shrunk.
As for the Hyper-Threading bit there are a few reviews benches on google and numerous inputs from people on here (including myself). Look for 680 sli owners + bf3 in the GPU section. There's other threads with info on it but I can't think of the threads atm.
Just went and spent £700 odd on a drunken whimI will not regret it tommorow
Ha ha. I went a bit crazy myself when the Ivy Bridges appeared for sale last night. Was planning to buy just the i5-3570K.
The 3770K, RAM, SSDs and all sorts ended up in my basket.
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I look at it as an alternative to overclocking - get more from a CPU without chucking volts at it, assuming your software allows.
Ha ha. I went a bit crazy myself when the Ivy Bridges appeared for sale last night. Was planning to buy just the i5-3570K.
The 3770K, RAM, SSDs and all sorts ended up in my basket.
Lol. I bought case + mobo + 3770k + k2 heatsink + psu... I think
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Hyperthreading is only worth it if you use your CPU for specialised tasks that make use of it. For gaming and general desktop use it is a complete waste of money.