Is independent thought under threat?

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Jesus really? Google, Youtube, Facebook, Twitter and the BBC are really you ask how they do not reflect the nearly half or more of the population who are conservative? Is this a god damm wind up? I am honestly speechless you claimed this OMG!

I dont understand what your point is. Are you saying that Youtube, Facebook and Twitter do not have loads of conservative users?
 
What are you on about?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Express

See political alignment: Conservative, right-wing populist, eurosceptic

It even backed the Tory party in the 2019 election, so after the change in editor.

Any thoughts?

You are incapable of reading and self awareness and basic research. The Daily Express was bought out and changed i mean hello? Anyone listening?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...express-it-was-anti-immigrant-i-couldnt-sleep

https://theconversation.com/daily-e...as-made-especially-if-you-are-a-migrant-95881

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/feb/09/why-trinity-mirror-bought-the-express-star
 
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I dont understand what your point is. Are you saying that Youtube, Facebook and Twitter do not have loads of conservative users?


Ok you are trolling now or really unable to mentally process our arguement? Of course they have conservative users it is thier owners and narrative and actions who are all anti conservative. I will no longer engage in conversation with you because you are wasting my time and i honestly think you are trolling. There is no way you can actually be that stupid and if you are then i am wasting my time on a permament basis.
 
What about the BBC? They have an immense left-wing agenda and are "publicly run".

Incorrect, the BBC are usually beholden to what ever government is currently in power, unless you totally forgot about Kuensbergs full on Anti Corbyn rhetoric in every report she did leading up to both general elections.

The fact is that people on both political sides think the BBC is "bias", which tells me they are probably about in the right place with regards to their reporting.
 

Basic research? The paper supported the Conservative Party in the 2019 election. That was AFTER the publication of all the articles you have provided me with.

To break this down further for you as I appreciate you are struggling:

The UK General election was held on 12 December 2019. The first article you posted is dated 28 April 2019. The second article you posted is dated 4 May 2018 and the third is from 9 February 2018.

If you are right that the Express is now a left-wing paper why did it support the Torys in the last election? Please explain as I clearly lack the self-awareness I require to understand.
 
Ok you are trolling now or really unable to mentally process our arguement? Of course they have conservative users it is thier owners and narrative and actions who are all anti conservative. I will no longer engage in conversation with you because you are wasting my time and i honestly think you are trolling. There is no way you can actually be that stupid and if you are then i am wasting my time on a permament basis.

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Ok you are trolling now or really unable to mentally process our arguement? Of course they have conservative users it is thier owners and narrative and actions who are all anti conservative. I will no longer engage in conversation with you because you are wasting my time and i honestly think you are trolling. There is no way you can actually be that stupid and if you are then i am wasting my time on a permament basis.

holding people to factual truth is not bias. The fact that facebook / Twitter et.al. are now clearly marking when thethink something is not factual is actually a good thing, unless of course you think getting spun a web of deceit is they politics should be ? Bias is when interviewers don't challenge basic lies that people are spouting on news reports and interviews e.g FOX. LBC used to be bad for this too, but at least that fatso Ferrari has some journalistic credibility left in his obese, greasy, 10 burger eating body, as he even presses some of the Tory rightwing MP's to properly explain themselves when they are telling large porkies.
 
I take everything with a shaker of salt these days, All the news outlets are ran by left wing cartels. Mostly the same media groups i guess they are buying up all the smaller outlets as well. Anyone noticed the death roll of right wing news in the UK?


Daily Mail running anti Trump stories, Daily Express was bought or the editor changed and also running anti Trump articles. They are trying to corner and control the flow of information. This with the Facebook, Twitter and Youtube purges only really leaves one side with a massive audience and that is the left wing. It is really sad give it 50 years everything will be left wing, Anti free speech and cancel culture will reign supreme. You will not be able to find any other source of information. You will not be allowed to say anything because they are talking about debating laws on misinformation to compliment section 75. Who defines what misinformation is?


I call this the Oriental Express, Next stop will be the China system.


The Mail changed as soon as Paul Dacre left its editorship, and the bleatings of the left show that the Mail's radical shift towards their causes has gone unnoticed by them (and many of its readership). I stopped buying the Mail the day Dacre left, it was obvious where it was heading. The Express has similarly shifted, but probably not to such an extent. I have got rid of all the TV's save for one for `er indoors and can say with my hand on my heart that I have not watched even a single TV programme since last March, and feel much the better for not getting wound up by the constant racial and political propaganda. This way I don't have to watch the United States of America become the Socialist States of America, unless Donald Trump can turn the election result around still. Which appears a possibility I think.
 
Basic research? The paper supported the Conservative Party in the 2019 election. That was AFTER the publication of all the articles you have provided me with.

To break this down further for you as I appreciate you are struggling:

The UK General election was held on 12 December 2019. The first article you posted is dated 28 April 2019. The second article you posted is dated 4 May 2018 and the third is from 9 February 2018.

If you are right that the Express is now a left-wing paper why did it support the Torys in the last election? Please explain as I clearly lack the self-awareness I require to understand.

Probably because it will be a slow process. They stated in that article they would be impartial so they lied. They are now running pro immigration and anti Trump articles. Give it time, They will soon be a Labour loudmouth rag.

Also @Jono8 added to ignore, First it was sheer stupidity and outright lies and now comes the gif. You have no arguement and are incapable of debate. I have seen this before you must surely fall into the 16-25 age group? Reading your reply makes me both laugh and be sad at the time time. So in order to filter out people not worth wasting time on you will now go to the ignore filter.
 
Which national newspaper is edited by a lifelong Labour supporter who voted remain, wants to promote the positive impact migration has on the UK, thinks Brexit is going badly, and has pledged to do all they can to fight Islamophobia?

The answer is the Daily Express, the once-mighty tabloid newspaper that over the last two decades has become associated with barely veiled racism, a relentless campaign for Britain to leave the EU, and an obsession with Princess Diana.

Apparantly there is no conspiracy lads! It is all part of a mental illness/Illusion. Just read that out loud a few times what an absoloute gem of a quote. They say the Daily Express is a right wing newspaper! :D

Add them to Google, Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, NY Times, BBC, Guardian! You people make me laugh so much.
 
Also @Jono8 added to ignore, First it was sheer stupidity and outright lies and now comes the gif. You have no arguement and are incapable of debate. I have seen this before you must surely fall into the 16-25 age group? Reading your reply makes me both laugh and be sad at the time time. So in order to filter out people not worth wasting time on you will now go to the ignore filter.


When the arguments get too hard to counter, just lash out and put people on ignore. Good tactic for furthering your understanding of things....







Anyway, in further news, it would seem that the pope is now part of this liberal media conspiracy -

https://apnews.com/article/race-and...al-injustice-8e6f5fb54479069f2604426b8a37a194

Pope book backs George Floyd protests, blasts virus skeptic

Today, listening to some of the populist leaders we now have, I am reminded of the 1930s, when some democracies collapsed into dictatorships seemingly overnight,” Francis wrote. “We see it happening again now in rallies where populist leaders excite and harangue crowds, channeling their resentments and hatreds against imagined enemies to distract from the real problems.”

People fall prey to such rhetoric out of fear, not true religious conviction, he wrote. Such “superficially religious people vote for populists to protect their religious identity, unconcerned that fear and hatred of the other cannot be reconciled with the Gospel.”



 
When the arguments get too hard to counter, just lash out and put people on ignore. Good tactic for furthering your understanding of things....







Anyway, in further news, it would seem that the pope is now part of this liberal media conspiracy -

https://apnews.com/article/race-and...al-injustice-8e6f5fb54479069f2604426b8a37a194

Pope book backs George Floyd protests, blasts virus skeptic

Today, listening to some of the populist leaders we now have, I am reminded of the 1930s, when some democracies collapsed into dictatorships seemingly overnight,” Francis wrote. “We see it happening again now in rallies where populist leaders excite and harangue crowds, channeling their resentments and hatreds against imagined enemies to distract from the real problems.”

People fall prey to such rhetoric out of fear, not true religious conviction, he wrote. Such “superficially religious people vote for populists to protect their religious identity, unconcerned that fear and hatred of the other cannot be reconciled with the Gospel.”



I regret the time i spent replying to you, Give me my free time back. A gif is not an arguement infact OCUK should auto ban people who are mentally incapable of an arguement without gif usage.
 
It’s honestly no wonder why Rofflay got comment banned from a right wing news website.

If you want to hold people to some kind of high debating standard, maybe start the topic in the speakers corner?

I’d imagine there’s a reason why you chose general instead.
 
It’s honestly no wonder why Rofflay got comment banned from a right wing news website.

If you want to hold people to some kind of high debating standard, maybe start the topic in the speakers corner?

I’d imagine there’s a reason why you chose general instead.

They are not a website, It was a Trump stream. Keep trying because some people think i am a communist and others a racist. It shows you how foolish people can be. They are denying media bias when i just destroyed it with facts.


And i do not follow politics like a football team, I have hammered Trump before. I can be impartial and look at things from an outside view. People who say there is no media bias are liars and trolls who suck up your free time and should be added to ignore. If you see something with your own eyes and can find links to back it up thats good enough for me. And i have been known for my anti Tory comments too.
 
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