Is independent thought under threat?

Liefrich · 24 Nov 2020 at 15:10

Rofflay said:
Probably because it will be a slow process. They stated in that article they would be impartial so they lied. They are now running pro immigration and anti Trump articles. Give it time, They will soon be a Labour loudmouth rag.

Also @Jono8 added to ignore, First it was sheer stupidity and outright lies and now comes the gif. You have no arguement and are incapable of debate. I have seen this before you must surely fall into the 16-25 age group? Reading your reply makes me both laugh and be sad at the time time. So in order to filter out people not worth wasting time on you will now go to the ignore filter.

I am probably beyond help! But out of interest what media sources should I believe? Which ones do you go to for your facts?

Jono8 · 24 Nov 2020 at 15:12

Rofflay said:
I regret the time i spent replying to you, Give me my free time back. A gif is not an arguement infact OCUK should auto ban people who are mentally incapable of an arguement without gif usage.

I thought you blocked me?

Rofflay · 24 Nov 2020 at 15:12

Liefrich said:
I am probably beyond help! But out of interest what media sources should I believe? Which ones do you go to for your facts?

None of them and all of them, I read what they say and research and come to my own conclusion. I am not left or right, I am not Labour or Tory. I am not a diehard Trump supporter. My views shift depending on the subject.

chroniclard · 24 Nov 2020 at 15:13

There is no overarching media bias.

MagicBoy · 24 Nov 2020 at 15:15

chroniclard said:
There is no overarching media bias.

Look at the thread title and Betteridge's law already resolved that.

chroniclard · 24 Nov 2020 at 15:17

MagicBoy said:
Look at the thread title and Betteridge's law already resolved that.

Had to google the law, agreed. Every days a school day.

Though, is google correct, could be biased?

inogen · 24 Nov 2020 at 15:18

Lysander said:
What about the BBC? They have an immense left-wing agenda and are "publicly run".

Lol. BBC News is essentially CCHQ. The editorial line over the last 15 years has been set quite squarely that way by Nick Robinson. To suggest that him or his successor, Kuenssberg have a left-wing agenda is quite frankly, absurd.

BBC comedy is a bit lefty. Sometimes. Though even that just tends to be throwing **** at everyone, just the Tories are often a much easier target given their tendencies to say and do more risible things.

MagicBoy · 24 Nov 2020 at 15:21

chroniclard said:
Had to google the law, agreed. Every days a school day.

Though, is google correct, could be biased?

Possibly.

Seems to work in the real world. OP could have saved himself about 300 words.

Rofflay · 24 Nov 2020 at 15:23

inogen said:
Lol. BBC News is essentially CCHQ. The editorial line over the last 15 years has been set quite squarely that way by Nick Robinson. To suggest that him or his successor, Kuenssberg have a left-wing agenda is quite frankly, absurd.

BBC comedy is a bit lefty. Sometimes.

A "bit" lol! The entire organization head to toe is left wing and woke and feminist and pro immigration. They ran lots of anti Trump propoganda five days before the election they had a video of the immigration cages and then cut to Trump and then cut again. It was Obama who built those damm cages? You sir are a troll!

Allnamestaken · 24 Nov 2020 at 15:24

MagicBoy · 24 Nov 2020 at 15:24

inogen said:
Lol. BBC News is essentially CCHQ. The editorial line over the last 15 years has been set quite squarely that way by Nick Robinson. To suggest that him or his successor, Kuenssberg have a left-wing agenda is quite frankly, absurd.

BBC comedy is a bit lefty. Sometimes.

Bit of a broad brush to try and cover all of BBC News.

Kuenssberg was effectively the No 10 Press Secretary. They just leaked everything to her to soft test things for public outrage without them ever officially becoming policy. Then she tripped over her ego with Barnard Castle, and made herself scarce.

Liefrich · 24 Nov 2020 at 15:29

Rofflay said:
None of them and all of them, I read what they say and research and come to my own conclusion. I am not left or right, I am not Labour or Tory. I am not a diehard Trump supporter. My views shift depending on the subject.

Yeah, but you must have a preferential source? You've told me that the Express, the Guardian, the Independent, Google, the BBC, the Daily Mail, Youtube, Facebook, the NY Times and "maybe" Twitter" are all left-wing or now left-leaning. So what source can I go to for the true neutral facts? What is your go-to source when you want to see what is happening in the world? For instance what source did you go to learn about the USA election or the impact of COVID?

MagicBoy · 24 Nov 2020 at 15:31

Liefrich said:
Yeah, but you must have a preferential source? You've told me that the Express, the Guardian, the Independent, Google, the BBC, the Daily Mail, Youtube, Facebook, the NY Times and "maybe" Twitter" are all left-wing or now left-leaning. So what source can I go to for the true neutral facts? What is your go-to source when you want to see what is happening in the world? For instance what source did you go to learn about the USA election or the impact of COVID?

Daily Mail is leftie ?!? :eek:

Someone's off their medication.

inogen · 24 Nov 2020 at 15:33

MagicBoy said:
Bit of a broad brush to try and cover all of BBC News.

Kuenssberg was effectively the No 10 Press Secretary. They just leaked everything to her to soft test things for public outrage without them ever officially becoming policy. Then she tripped over her ego with Barnard Castle, and made herself scarce.

She's the news editor, she's in charge of the BBC News. As was Robinson for 10 years before her. He was all set to be a Tory politician before he turned journo. Now he's the anchor of Today. BBC news is infested with Toryism. A number of production companies that produce the news programming like QT are run by paid up Tories too. Just a fact of life nowadays.

inogen · 24 Nov 2020 at 15:35

Rofflay said:
A "bit" lol! The entire organization head to toe is left wing and woke and feminist and pro immigration. They ran lots of anti Trump propoganda five days before the election they had a video of the immigration cages and then cut to Trump and then cut again. It was Obama who built those damm cages? You sir are a troll!

Being anti-Trump doesn't make anyone left wing. Neither does being feminist or pro-immigration either BTW.

Liefrich · 24 Nov 2020 at 15:35

MagicBoy said:
Daily Mail is leftie ?!?

Someone's off their medication.

See Rofflay's post #5!

I hadn't even countenanced the thought the Daily Mail is left-wing, but I am probably a brain-washed lost cause :mad:

Ayahuasca · 24 Nov 2020 at 15:39

Just be Chad theory confirmed.

Rofflay · 24 Nov 2020 at 15:55

inogen said:
Being anti-Trump doesn't make anyone left wing. Neither does being feminist or pro-immigration either BTW.

Rofl well what the hell does? All those things are what the left worship add in wokeness and you got pretty much everything i despise about the BBC. All these are left wing Trotski manual plays.

Pho · 24 Nov 2020 at 15:59

It makes me laugh people call the BBC news left wing yet I remember during the the last couple of elections they'd always be running stories with a negative Labour bias and barely any that would look bad for the Conservatives. I think they're pretty centre, hence why those on the left say it's right wing and those on the right say it's left.

BBC comedy is left wing, but I can only imagine right wing comedy is awful.

If you wan't a more balanced views at least look on say https://news.google.com where they aggregate the stories/headlines across most of the news sources so you an compare. The Express is the absolutely direst of dire news sources, just don't.