So you don't despise the way consoles are holding games back?
Is it just me ?
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So you don't despise the way consoles are holding games back?
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What ? You're trying to tell us we shouldn't have opinions/likes/dislikes/attitudes ?
I find that hilarious that you wouldn't have these kind of thoughts running around in your head < -- sorry, stole that last line from you
It's a good line. Feel free to use it.
I'm not saying you aren't entitled to have all those, just a bit ridiculous you decided to cut off what would have been a good conversation because he had a 360.
Having a prejudice is another matter - because that's what it is, and is why I find it quite peculiar you would hold something like that against another person.
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They're not. Quite the opposite: there's a LOT of money being made in consoles (and their games), and money can be invested in new games/developers/services/ideas/staff etc which in turn generates even more cashflow.
I think the majority of the best games have been released on consoles in the last few years. Just an opinion of course. Doesn't mean I dislike PC gaming either - I know it has its benefits: graphics and online (when dedicated servers are in use) are both better. But, the graphics on the consoles aren't THAT far behind to make it a deciding factor and the online services offered by consoles are pretty darn good too (just not AS good).
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I hope you asked him why, as a console gamer, he felt himself able to look you in the eyes and address you without prefixing every sentence with 'Sir'?
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I'd like to see a console stuffed with a 480/5970 inside it. 
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The simple fact of the matter is: if consoles didn't exist games would be generations ahead of what we have now.
You can't deny that almost every game released now is dumbed down to suit console needs. (less demanding visuals, smaller maps / levels, smaller scale, "consoley" interface, less configuration and customization, etc, the list goes on and on)
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Sounds like a stereotypical OcUK pc gamer looking down his nose at console boys. Pretty immature attitude to be fair. It's basically the same as talking about cars, and unless you and the stranger are talking about your nice car, you don't wanna talk.
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I agree to a certain extent. However, I don't think consoles are to blame entirely. They've brought more money in to the industry as a whole. Also, the graphics aren't THAT far behind - not so much that I feel they are holding the whole industry behind.
I would agree graphically (as that's what all those areas you mention come under) things probably would be more advance but that would only happen if more money was being made in PC gaming. Unfortunately, piracy does play a part, how big a part we'll never know for sure.
I sort of see where you're coming from, but it's far from being fact that consoles have held back gaming. They've opened games up to more people than PCs ever could. Swings and roundabouts isn't it.
I think piracy on the PC is also largely to blame, who wants to invest millions into developing a game when they know it will be pirated by a lot of people, this makes return of investment a gamble.
Fair enough, glad we see both sides and I will go as far as to agree the immense ammount of money from consoles (More than music or films generate.) helps. Though there is always that flipside of hardware limitations, stifling advancement in the genre. Which seems to be more the case over the last few years especially.
Basically we PC gamers, with the tech; know the lower teched consoles are holding us back.
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Easy solution: Use Steam
If my developers used Steam as their prime distributor then piracy would lower incredibly, although it would still exist of course
Is it really piracy proof though, I remember HL1 being available before the Steam players could even play/authenticate?
It's a bit silly if you play the same games, with the same maps, same tactics etc. I have MW, MW2, BFBC2 etc on xbox 360 - wouldn't have it on PC even if the graphics are better. However I have over 200 games (dating back to the late 90s) on PC and spend most of my time playing them. I don't have the most up to date rig because I would rather spend my money on games atm and will upgrade the whole system when games I want won't work on it. I own (along with my 2 brothers) all the new gen consoles but don't look down my nose at people who don't play on PC as well. There's no difference anyway most of the time especially as you can use a 360 or ps3 pad on the PC to play them.
So yeah basically consoles haven't killed PC gaming
So yeah basically consoles haven't killed PC gaming