Is it ok to be proud to be white?

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and why would we? The English conquered both lands with force [..]

When do you think that happened? England, yes, that land was conquered during the 5th and 6th centuries by people of various tribes who later became known as English. But Scotland? Named after Irish conquerers from the early medieval period, so why aren't you blaming "the Irish"? Conquered later by Normans, so why aren't you blaming either "the Norse" or "the French", depending on how you see the Normans (who were sort of both and sort of neither)?

Granted, there was a brief period of time in the 12th century during which Scotland was a vassal of England. That had nothing to do with England conquering Scotland by force, though. It was due to Scotland invading England (again - that happened a number of times), failing (likewise) and the king of Scotland being captured on the battlefield. The king of England offered him a deal - swear fealty and be released. He accepted. It didn't last long - he bought himself out of the oath with cash - and wouldn't have lasted much longer than that anyway as it was a personal oath and therefore wouldn't have bound his heir. It was mainly a way to stop Scotland invading England again for a while.
 
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I prefer to associate pride to individual achievements or achievements I can claim a reasonable association to (such as family or workplace).

Associating it to genetic heritage is an interesting one and does seem to be allowed under the definition of the word. If you feel pride for the things other white people have achieved should that also make you ashamed of the bad things they have done if you feel that strong cultural association?
 
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Who were the Picts of Scotland again?

Arguably not a thing because the Picts existed before Scotland and were, at least in a sense, replaced by the Scots. Not in the sense of invasion and annihilation. In the sense of invasion, conquest and cultural change. Many people of Scotland were descended from Picts, but people of Scotland are not Picts. In a similar way, many people of England were descended from Iceni or Brigante (or other tribes who occupied the same area before) but people of England are not Iceni or Brigante or whatever. But more so, because nobody ever thought of themselves as being a Pict. Pict is an exonym, not an endonym.

"Picts" is an Anglicised form of the Latin word "Pictii", which Romans used to described some of the tribes in which body art was a custom. Which included but wasn't limited to the northern part of Britain that later became called Scotland. In general modern use, 'Pict' applies only to the people who were living in what later became Scotland. They didn't call themselves Picts, of course. There were a number of tribes, who each had their own name. The same as in the rest of Britain in those days.

If you look into them, you'll probably read that they tattooed themselves with woad. That's a modern myth that originated in an advertising campaign well over 1000 years after the last of the Picts lived. And no, I am not joking. The woad industry was losing out to imported indigo and ran an advertising campaign harking back to the old days when woad was used by Britons - buy woad instead of indigo for cultural and patriotic reasons! It didn't work. It also wasn't true. Woad is so astringent that it's caustic. If someone is tattooed with genuine woad they will get chemical burns. The resulting scarring will be white, not blue. Nor did they paint themselves with woad. That won't burn you as long as your skin is undamaged because woad doesn't penetrate human skin. For the same reason, woad won't dye human skin. So if you paint yourself with woad, it'll just dry and flake off. Quite quickly. Woad was widely used for dyeing cloth. Not skin. Whatever the Pictii used for their body art, it certainly wasn't woad. It's usually described as blue, but sometimes as green. Various copper and iron compounds have been suggested, but we don't know for sure. They didn't use writing and the Roman references would be at best 2nd hand and could easily have stemmed from someone lying to the Romans for a laugh. The literal translation of the reference in Caesar's account is "blue glass", which means who knows what. Maybe a Briton told a Roman (maybe Caesar, maybe someone who told Caesar) that they made the blue markings by cutting themselves with a special blue glass. Then told their mates that they'd said that to the Romans and the bloody fools believed it! Good laughs all round.

St Patrick leading the snakes out of Ireland? I don't know just bits of knowledge from here and there.

That's the story. It's rather unlikely to be true. It's a religious story intended to show the power and piety of St Patrick and the "snakes" in the story are probably allegorical anyway, a symbol of Christian ideas of sin and temptation and all that.

A rather more plausible explanation for the lack of snakes in Ireland is that it was much too cold for snakes during the last ice age and no snakes made their way back to Ireland before it became an island. I forget the details of when that happened, but it wasn't that long after the end of the last ice age.
 
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it's 6am Angie is it your day off or what's going on lol, i'm joking but you've spent a lot of time getting that post spot on I suspect lol.

The " snakes " were the Picts the travellers the drain on society.
 
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The literal translation of the reference in Caesar's account is "blue glass", which means who knows what. Maybe a Briton told a Roman (maybe Caesar, maybe someone who told Caesar) that they made the blue markings by cutting themselves with a special blue glass. Then told their mates that they'd said that to the Romans and the bloody fools believed it! Good laughs all round.

Maybe something like referring to someone who is drunk as being hammered, plastered, wasted, etc. but the meaning lost in time - though Latin typically uses simple direct descriptions - seems more likely it was an off-hand explanation using things Romans would be familiar with though than an actual description of the process used which is a later interpretation.
 
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Maybe something like referring to someone who is drunk as being hammered, plastered, wasted, etc. but the meaning lost in time - though Latin typically uses simple direct descriptions - seems more likely it was an off-hand explanation using things Romans would be familiar with though than an actual description of the process used which is a later interpretation.

Nobody knows, which is why I said "which means who knows what". Some indirect meaning well known to Romans of the time but since lost is, as you suggested, likely. But telling nonsense to outsiders to see if they'll believe it has happened and it's funnier. I was just talking off the top of my head (although I had to look up the opposite of "exonym" as I'd forgotten that).

I have a copy of Caesar's accounts of the Gallic wars in Latin somewhere, but I'm too comfortably seated to go looking for it. Maybe tomorrow I'll find the exact phrasing and go looking online for articles about the interpretation of it.
 
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Society has the view that straight white men are all evil. They have been getting rid of gender for ages. We are being brain washed completely into believing white people have an easy life. Gay Pride meant something but today is be-anything-you-want-but-not-striaght Pride.

Although I don't believe in White Pride World Wide or we are superior in anyway. I do think we've all come a long way and like animals one is at the top of the food chain, the same goes with cultures and countries.

Most of this rasicm nonsense is to sell socialism.

So be proud of being a straight white man!
 
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Society has the view that straight white men are all evil. They have been getting rid of gender for ages. We are being brain washed completely into believing white people have an easy life. Gay Pride meant something but today is be-anything-you-want-but-not-striaght Pride.

Although I don't believe in White Pride World Wide or we are superior in anyway. I do think we've all come a long way and like animals one is at the top of the food chain, the same goes with cultures and countries.

Most of this rasicm nonsense is to sell socialism.

So be proud of being a straight white man!
Absolutely not true.

Stop trying to defend racism.

Shocking post by you
 
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Society has the view that straight white men are all evil. They have been getting rid of gender for ages. We are being brain washed completely into believing white people have an easy life. Gay Pride meant something but today is be-anything-you-want-but-not-striaght Pride.

Although I don't believe in White Pride World Wide or we are superior in anyway. I do think we've all come a long way and like animals one is at the top of the food chain, the same goes with cultures and countries.

Most of this rasicm nonsense is to sell socialism.

lolwat?
 
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Society has the view that straight white men are all evil. They have been getting rid of gender for ages. We are being brain washed completely into believing white people have an easy life. Gay Pride meant something but today is be-anything-you-want-but-not-striaght Pride.

Although I don't believe in White Pride World Wide or we are superior in anyway. I do think we've all come a long way and like animals one is at the top of the food chain, the same goes with cultures and countries.

Most of this rasicm nonsense is to sell socialism.

So be proud of being a straight white man!

I think that's enough Tony Williams Experience for you today :p
 
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Absolutely not true.

Stop trying to defend racism.

Shocking post by you

We have to define rasicm.

1) Claiming another race is inferior, stupid or dangerous or your race is superior to others.

2) Blaming or targeting someone because of their race.

Being proud of being white is just a genetic thing. It doesn't really mean anything, it isn't a basis of your character or who you are. I don't feel people who are proud of their colour are necessary racist it depends on their behaviours. As to dating, I do admit I typically go for women who are my own colour which is Greek / dark skinned I'd date pale white or black too if I found them attractive.

I'm not defending rasicm at all. I believe everyone of every colour, inside or outside the womb or whatever their health condition is all of equal value.

But rasicm today is a weapon used by politicians and people can't see it. I feel aweful George Floyd died. He shouldn't of, regardless of his past or drug use but they've used his death for policital power and votes. People feel that Joe Biden and the left stand against rasicm they really don't. He said many things I consider rasict but others don't.

"If you don't vote for me, you ain't black" - all black people are the same?
Something along the lines of Barrack Obama was the first clean, smart mainstream African American man.
K Harris as a attorney put many black people in prison for cannabis procession.

Also nonsense like requiring voter ID is rasicm?? Why? Because they'll tell you because black people don't have ID because they can't afford it or they can't find a DMV OFFICE. The reasoning is racist I think.

When COVID first began. My opinion February 2020 was to shut the boarders and protect the UK. That's racism in everyones eyes however the same people went around saying COVID came from a wet market when it now appears to of came from a lab. I feel blaming a culture on something is more racist than shutting boarders.
 
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