Is it time to upgrade or is my pc still very decent

[2013]

My PC
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5800x
Cooler: Noctua U12S
Motherboard: ROG CROSSHAIR VI HERO (WI-FI AC)
Ram: 16GB Team Group dark DDR4 3200
GPU: Only a Titan X but I don't get to play games as much and i've not had a issue play games so far, but will upgrade at some point when i find something worth upgrading to that come along at the right price.
Case: Evol X will only only change if I can find another case that's is as solid as this.
SSD: 1tb Samsung 980, I will upgrade at some point to something with more storage but its not been urgent so just saved the money .
HDD: I have 3 large storage drive.

I do a bit everything on the PC, basic graphic and photo editing, video editing and converting, gaming, media centre, office pc and and all the normal use. Sometime I do find things slower, but still better than anything else I use

 

[tamzzy]

I would upgrade the graphics card and the ram

 

[Tetras]

According to TPU's GPU database, the Titan X is equivalent to a 1660 Super, so you have a lot of upgrade headroom there without spending that much. The only snag is getting a memory upgrade with nvidia from the 12GB Titan X would cost an outrageous amount that you don't need.

 

[2013]

I would upgrade the graphics card and the ram

According to TPU's GPU database, the Titan X is equivalent to a 1660 Super, so you have a lot of upgrade headroom there without spending that much. The only snag is getting a memory upgrade with nvidia from the 12GB Titan X would cost an outrageous amount that you don't need.

upgrade from 16gb to 32gb ? would i see a difference ? i'm not sure how often I hit the limit so I never considered Ram upgrade.

I have a 1080p monitor at the moment is it still worth upgrading the GPU, also what should I get ? I'm thinking a 50% - 100% boost upgrade would be good upgrade deepening on the price.

anything else I should consider ?

 

[Tetras]

I have a 1080p monitor at the moment is it still worth upgrading the GPU, also what should I get ? I'm thinking a 50% - 100% boost upgrade would be good upgrade deepening on the price.

What you have is not bad, but there's definitely more to come in modern games than a card of that level can give you.

TPU's GPU database says the 4070 non-Super is 172% faster.

Far more worthwhile at 1440p though, no doubt.

 

[2013]

What you have is not bad, but there's definitely more to come in modern games than a card of that level can give you.

TPU's GPU database says the 4070 non-Super is 172% faster.

Far more worthwhile at 1440p though, no doubt.

So far ive not had any issue playing any modern games, but things could change, I was thinking of a monitor upgrade before the GPU upgrade, maybe a better option, what do you think ?
and I'm assuming a worthy upgrade would be a few hundred at the moment.

also what do you think of the ram ?

 

[Tetras]

So far ive not had any issue playing any modern games, but things could change, I was thinking of a monitor upgrade before the GPU upgrade, maybe a better option, what do you think ?
and I'm assuming a worthy upgrade would be a few hundred at the moment.

If you went to 1440p then your card would be pretty likely to lose playability at that resolution.

also what do you think of the ram ?

With gaming specifically, it really depends on the game and how much multitasking you're doing. Personally, I would say that there's enough evidence that gaming in 2024 only works with 16GB if you manage your RAM outside of gaming (e.g. you don't leave your browser, Photoshop or whatever open while you play a demanding game). That said, there are even relatively recent games that run just fine with 8GB, so if you don't notice any problems, then you don't need it. You will need it though, sooner or later.

 

[2013]

So upgrade the GPU before upgrading the monitor and Ram 16GB ram is ok ?
So For PC spec there is not reason to upgrade to Zen 5 or DDR5 ?

Ill keep a Eye out for GPU and Ram ( would want a matching pair )

 

[Tetras]

So For PC spec there is not reason to upgrade to Zen 5 or DDR5 ?

It depends what you're looking for from this upgrade, from what you've said so far:

ive not had any issue playing any modern games

Sometime I do find things slower, but still better than anything else I use

It doesn't sound like your PC is struggling with anything you're doing?

Is a 7800X3D MUCH faster for gaming? Sure, but why would you need it? Seems like you don't.

Is a 9950X MUCH faster for productivity? Sure, but again, why bother? Seems like you're fine right now.

So upgrade the GPU before upgrading the monitor

You would have to do both simultaneously, because right now you don't need more graphics performance, but you very likely will @ 1440p.

and Ram 16GB ram is ok ?

From what you have said, yes, but you can check the usage yourself while you game (with task manager).

 

[2013]

You are right I don't really need to upgrade, I just have a habit of considering upgrades every year or 2.
also gaming is not my main use recently so I'm not sure how much I would benefit from the upgrade.

 

[Tetras]

also gaming is not my main use recently so I'm not sure how much I would benefit from the upgrade.

I'd suggest you monitor your usage while you work and identify if it is primarily a single or multithread bottleneck (though be wary that apps are using the GPU more and more nowadays).

Once you know where the bottleneck is better, you can go from there.

If it is primarily multithread, you could even get a 5900X/5950X on the same board, but if the bottleneck is primarily single thread you'd gain next to nothing and would need to switch platforms.

TPU have quite a few benchmarks for productivity in their reviews, as do Puget.

 

[FredFlint]

I would upgrade RAM to 32GB as its a cheap and easy option, its not going to be an "OMG that's fast" upgrade, but it will improve general usage. Windows caches everything as you use the PC so if you bounce around opening, closing, re-open stuff it dose it faster as its more likely to be still in-memory.

 

[2013]

what is the best software to monitor or should i just use windows task manager ?

checking my motherboard https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-crosshair/rog-crosshair-vi-hero-wi-fi-ac-model/helpdesk_cpu/ it does support all AM4 CPUs but I'm not sure which ones would be a significant improvement.
Ill need to check since i last check when the 5800x was release.

 

[2013]

I would upgrade RAM to 32GB as its a cheap and easy option, its not going to be an "OMG that's fast" upgrade, but it will improve general usage. Windows caches everything as you use the PC so if you bounce around opening, closing, re-open stuff it dose it faster as its more likely to be still in-memory.

I do that a lot so ill keep an eye out for ram.

 

[Tetras]

what is the best software to monitor or should i just use windows task manager ?

Task manager should be able to tell you everything, you can check what cores are being loaded and the RAM & SSD usage.

it does support all AM4 CPUs but I'm not sure which ones would be a significant improvement

If your bottleneck is single-thread there's pretty much zero point upgrading for productivity, but let us know.

 

[2013]

Task manager should be able to tell you everything, you can check what cores are being loaded and the RAM & SSD usage.


If your bottleneck is single-thread there's pretty much zero point upgrading for productivity, but let us know.

I have no idea how to check if its a multi thread or single thread bottlenec.

 

[Tetras]

I have no idea how to check if its a multi thread or single thread bottlenec.

This is a bit imprecise, but how I do it is:
- Open task manager.
- Minimise it.
- When I notice a bottleneck (e.g. you're waiting for something to complete), hover the mouse over the taskbar icon.

If the CPU usage is low, e.g. 25-40% with a 4 core CPU then more cores probably won't help you.
If the CPU usage is very high, e.g. 90-100%, then more cores probably will help.

If your CPU has a different turbo clock per # of cores used, that's also another way to tell. E.g. if it sits at max single core boost you know it is not using all the CPU, whereas if it sits at all-core boost then you're using everything.

Once you know where the bottlenecks are, then you can check other benchmarks to confirm what the per-core scaling is like, since even if you upgrade to a 5950X, for example, 16 cores doesn't mean everything would be twice as fast.

 

[2013]

Thank, ill keep an I out for a monitor, GPU and Ram upgrades, I may get lucky and find some at a good price. since Im not in a rush I can wait and look and in the mean time monitor the system for bottlenecks.


I have no idea of the GPU and monitor (27 - 32 inch ) pricing recently, would anyone be able to offer some guidance.

 

[Tetras]

I have no idea of the GPU and monitor (27 - 32 inch ) pricing recently, would anyone be able to offer some guidance.

Graphics: (regular price, deal price, relative performance difference to your Titan, from TPU, target resolution)
- 4060: £270, < £250, +76%, 1080p
- 6750 XT: £300, < £300, +109%, entry-1440p
- 7700 XT (or 6800 non-XT): £350, £300, +141%, 1440p
- 4070: £470, < £450, +172%, 1440p
- 7800 XT: £420, < £400, +193%, 1440p
- 4070 Super: £550, < £500, +216%, 1440p or entry-4K
- 7900 GRE: £550, < £500, +222%, 1440p or entry-4K

Monitors: not my thing.

in the mean time monitor the system for bottlenecks.

You can use hwinfo's sensor tab to see the actual clocks for your CPU's individual cores too, by the way, was just trying to avoid downloading extra software.

 

[2013]

Graphics: (regular price, deal price, relative performance difference to your Titan, from TPU, target resolution)
- 4060: £270, < £250, +76%, 1080p
- 6750 XT: £300, < £300, +109%, entry-1440p
- 7700 XT (or 6800 non-XT): £350, £300, +141%, 1440p
- 4070: £470, < £450, +172%, 1440p
- 7800 XT: £420, < £400, +193%, 1440p
- 4070 Super: £550, < £500, +216%, 1440p or entry-4K
- 7900 GRE: £550, < £500, +222%, 1440p or entry-4K

Monitors: not my thing.


You can use hwinfo's sensor tab to see the actual clocks for your CPU's individual cores too, by the way, was just trying to avoid downloading extra software.

Thanks for taking the time to help me out.

I would be looking at the 300 and below mark, what are the best options ?

what about the
RX 6650 XT 73%
RX 7600 75%
RTX 2080 77% / Super 86% or is this too old and not worth considering ?
Radeon RX 7600 XT 81%
GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 91%
Radeon RX 6700 XT 97%
GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 91%
GeForce RTX 3070 123%
GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 139%
Radeon RX 6800 XT 179%
GeForce RTX 3080 190%