Is it time to upgrade or is my pc still very decent

[2013]

If your actual PC isn’t lagging for your use, I would suggest other areas where you’ll benefit from an upgrade, if you really want to improve the overall experience. Monitor: plenty of fast, good quality 1440p monitors pretty cheap now. 4K not limited to 60Hz as it was the case few years back, when anything faster would cost a leg and an arm.
Speakers: unless you already have some decent speakers, it can be a great upgrade. Same for headphones.
Just keep in mind that a monitor upgrade now, even if the actual GPU won’t make full use of it, but when you really need a hardware upgrade, the monitor will be there, waiting for it.
Hardware wise, GPU only if your favourite game/games start to struggle. If CPU starts to struggle, a 5800x3D can give your an extra boost, but apart from gaming, no reason to “upgrade” the CPU.
faster RAM, 3200 low latency is plenty. A lot of good 3200 RAM can run at 3600, just need some loose timings sometimes.
More RAM, for productivity, yes, may help. For games, not all the time.

Thanks.
I've not really struggling yet, I may not be able to play games I like at the ultra setting, but on high they still work well so far..
Same for the RAM and CPU i've not had any major issues or struggled with anything, at least not that I noticed, unless I push everything to the limit, most apps work fine.
I just have a habit like a lot of other people on here, just thinking about upgrades.

A monitor is on my upgrade list, I have a 1080p monitor at the moment and a Titan X GPU so I would not benefit from one unless I upgrade the GPU other than the size, but it give me the room to upgrade.
the same can be said for a GPU, but on the GPU side I could push the games further.

So its a question of monitor or GPU upgrade first.
also any monitor recommendations 27"-32"

Speakers would be a good idea, I keep forgetting to get a new set after my last set stopped working ( got a pair average headphones)

I've been think about this but instead of upgrading the CPU in the future. would it not be better to upgrade platforms ? I mean I would still be still be paying a good amount for a minor upgrade with no head room, unless some huge bargain comes along.

 

[Tetras]

Would I need more ram or should I just wait till I start to hit the limit more often ?

It sounds like you're not normally pushing it, so I guess the questions I'd ask are: 1. what is £50 worth to you? (if you buy a 32GB kit) and 2. are you going to get an itch soon and upgrade to AM5? If the answer is "a lot" and/or "maybe", then the response I'd give is don't bother.

I dont think its worth switching to something like the 6400 or 6500xt, so it unlikely I would get something like them for this PC.

Yeah, I think this problem will always be limited to low end cards like that, so if you don't plan to buy one it should be a non-issue.

Considering I dont play that many games and the Titan X works fine for now, I dont really want to spend £100s on a GPU at this point in time. but it give me something to work toward.

Makes sense, considering the Titan is nearly 10 years old it actually holds up pretty well (..or progress has been pretty stagnant). That's why I'd push you toward a higher-end card too (rather than e.g. a 7600), just to 1. make it a decent upgrade and 2. get something with some headroom for the future.

 

[2013]

It sounds like you're not normally pushing it, so I guess the questions I'd ask are: 1. what is £50 worth to you? (if you buy a 32GB kit) and 2. are you going to get an itch soon and upgrade to AM5? If the answer is "a lot" and/or "maybe", then the response I'd give is don't bother.

1. I would say £50 is not a great amount but it would need to make a difference ? at the moment I'm not sure I'm hitting the limits or I would see any difference, should I watch the task manager a little longer.

Im still on the side lines on this upgrade, "from what I remember it was better to get DDR4-3200 at a low latency, but recently I can only find 32gb at 3200 CL16 or 3600 CL18 or higher
I have have rarely hit the 16GB. " to which you said switching The difference between those speeds is irrelevant to you IF you're actually using the memory. Question would latency matter as much if I upgrade to 32gb, you also said "16x2 is safer/easier to run than 8x4, but you do ideally want dual rank sticks (which Samsung b-die would have been, in 16GB capacity)" like i said I have no clue on RAM and kind of get lost in what you say sometimes, any pointers ?

The more confused i get the the more I keep going back and forth changing my mind if I should upgrade the ram or not, would I loose out switch from the ram i have to something a little poorer.

2. No, I don't think so, I would wait for the prices to come down a little, the 5800x has been the best PC i've had IMO, no noticeable issues, no freezing, lagging in non gaming use or anything like that, I have gone wild with multi tasking but nothing. In the past I would have all the issues, I would have issues with loading some apps (what was expected in the past.

Makes sense, considering the Titan is nearly 10 years old it actually holds up pretty well (..or progress has been pretty stagnant). That's why I'd push you toward a higher-end card too (rather than e.g. a 7600), just to 1. make it a decent upgrade and 2. get something with some headroom for the future.

Good point, im still looking towards a 6750XT, GeForce RTX 4060 Ti, a 7700XT or something around that. what will give me the best value upgrade but staying on the lower price range.
are there any graphics card to be release anytime soon ?

 

[Tetras]

I have no clue on RAM and kind of get lost in what you say sometimes, any pointers ?

If I boil it down, I think 16GB is reaching the point of being obsolete (due to increasing size/memory usage of apps and games) and when that happens you WILL notice the degradation in performance. So, if you plan to keep this system any decent length of time (e.g. 1.5 - 2+ years) rather than switching to AM5&DDR5, then I'd just do it now while the memory upgrade is relatively cheap and widely available.

The technicalities of losing performance with higher latency and fewer ranks is not a big deal when/if you're running out of memory, but if you can avoid it: I'd do it. Having dual rank 16x2 sticks will likely gain you more performance than the latency, FYI.

Good point, im still looking towards a 6750XT, GeForce RTX 4060 Ti, a 7700XT or something around that. what will give me the best value upgrade but staying on the lower price range.
are there any graphics card to be release anytime soon ?

Be careful with the 4060 Ti, they're barely faster than the 3060 Ti (especially in a PCI-E 3.0 board) and the 16GB version is way overpriced.

So far as I know the new cards will be released over the next months, but RDNA4 is midrange only, so more likely to be appealing than nvidia, since I'd expect them to go high-end first.

 

[mickyflinn]

Your titan X is around 1660 super performance so something like a 6750xt would give you a 75% performance increase over your titan x.

The 6750xt can be had for around the £285 mark

The 4060ti is about 10% faster on average than the 12gb 6750xt but costing around £340 for the 8gb version. Nvidia do have better upscalling tech so something to consider.

 

[2013]

If I boil it down, I think 16GB is reaching the point of being obsolete (due to increasing size/memory usage of apps and games) and when that happens you WILL notice the degradation in performance. So, if you plan to keep this system any decent length of time (e.g. 1.5 - 2+ years) rather than switching to AM5&DDR5, then I'd just do it now while the memory upgrade is relatively cheap and widely available.

The technicalities of losing performance with higher latency and fewer ranks is not a big deal when/if you're running out of memory, but if you can avoid it: I'd do it. Having dual rank 16x2 sticks will likely gain you more performance than the latency, FYI.


Be careful with the 4060 Ti, they're barely faster than the 3060 Ti (especially in a PCI-E 3.0 board) and the 16GB version is way overpriced.

So far as I know the new cards will be released over the next months, but RDNA4 is midrange only, so more likely to be appealing than nvidia, since I'd expect them to go high-end first.

Thanks, ill take your advice and upgrade to 32gb, but ill wait a little longer for the new GPU release since they will be mid tier, which maybe suitable for me, even if they are not more older models will come onto the 2nd hand market.

Your titan X is around 1660 super performance so something like a 6750xt would give you a 75% performance increase over your titan x.

The 6750xt can be had for around the £285 mark

The 4060ti is about 10% faster on average than the 12gb 6750xt but costing around £340 for the 8gb version. Nvidia do have better upscalling tech so something to consider.

Thanks, ill take a look, considering the cost and benefits .

 

[2013]

Any particular brand to get ?
also since most RAM has a life time warranty, I assume it does not matter if I buy new or used.

 

[Tetras]

Any particular brand to get ?
also since most RAM has a life time warranty, I assume it does not matter if I buy new or used.

You could try your luck with the 8Pack kit (59.99 @ OCUK), it doesn't say anything about b-die anymore, but hopefully they're decent chips.