Is the Linux desktop experience really this bad?

Well, so far Debian has been alright (touch wood). Wireless connection is stable which is a massive convenience boost and nothing has crashed yet. Opera hanged once but came back after about 30 seconds.

So what do people use for a firewall front end in Debian?
 
Well, so far Debian has been alright (touch wood). Wireless connection is stable which is a massive convenience boost and nothing has crashed yet. Opera hanged once but came back after about 30 seconds.

So what do people use for a firewall front end in Debian?

Nothing, I just let me router do its thing.
 
the spell checker thing is an odd one but easy to fix. it works when you select America for the spelling but not for the UK. its not too different in spelling so i just run the american language on that, it can be changed per application or globally.
 
I've got csf on my debian servers. Keeps my iptables up to date. Not sure if you'd want that on a desktopish build though?

It's my learning tool so anything goes really, has lots of server roles DNS/apache/SMB running anyway.

So I've been running Debian for the last few days on and off and so far it's proven itself much more stable than Ubuntu.

Need a more powerful PC and a bigger screen now :o
 
If you're going to use xfce just go out of your way to use xubuntu from the start.

To be fair I didn't know I'd end up with xfce. I'd not used Linux for a while and really didn't like gnome3. I've stuck with gnome2 on debian and it's ok, it does the job.
 
for what its worth i have found mint 14 xcfe for desktop and freeBSD / centos for server to be the best.

things like kde and cinnamon on linux are fancy and nice looking but if you try run the official amd driver you will get desktop funnies and crashes, the opensource driver is the way to go for them.. but beware the game performance is lousy.

apparently intel or nvidia is the way to go for making a linux gaming platform and my experience confirms this.

deadite66 the hibernate / sleep function has worked well for me on my simple intel laptop running mint. Im fact i always have had problems with windows sleeping and resuming, it just feels slow for the rest of the session on windows and it sometimes didn't resume or applications / services would crash. On the contrary such is the performance of the sleep on my laptop i can close the lid on what im doing and within 3 seconds its silent. I can then open the laptop a week later and as if i pressed pause the laptop resumes fully playing youtube / internet radio from the exact point with 0% pause, Its literally all systems go like I paused time :eek: !

that ability still amazes me now i would class it as 100% perfect sleep / hibernate

in the end its always drivers that determine the initial experience. some get high compatibility and some don't, if you do you will have a big smile on your face and if you don't you will hate linux for sure.
 
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It's funny you should mention CentOS as I was literally only yesterday thinking about whether it might be the way forward. I found an old podcast and listened to an interview with one of the maintainers and it sounds like a really good project.

I've known/assumed for a while that nvidia is the way to go with Linux stuff. I spent far too much time staring at xorg.conf a few years ago and don't really want to waste time repeating it.

Thankfully I'm not bothered about the flashy desktop effects or playing games. To be honest I prefer Windows for day-to-day stuff, which is a good thing really because it means I'm going to spend less time fussing about making the desktop nice on Linux and more time working with the nuts and bolts.

I've heard FreeBSD come up a few times with regards to servers. Are Linux skills quite transferable?
 
It's funny you should mention CentOS as I was literally only yesterday thinking about whether it might be the way forward. I found an old podcast and listened to an interview with one of the maintainers and it sounds like a really good project.

I've known/assumed for a while that nvidia is the way to go with Linux stuff. I spent far too much time staring at xorg.conf a few years ago and don't really want to waste time repeating it.

Thankfully I'm not bothered about the flashy desktop effects or playing games. To be honest I prefer Windows for day-to-day stuff, which is a good thing really because it means I'm going to spend less time fussing about making the desktop nice on Linux and more time working with the nuts and bolts.

I've heard FreeBSD come up a few times with regards to servers. Are Linux skills quite transferable?



Server wise ,
The five most popular Server versions of Linux are;
1) Red Hat
2) Debian
3) OpenSUSE
4) Slackware
5) CentOS (Linux.org runs on a CentOS Linux VPS)

The two most popular Virtual Server versions of Linux are;

1) VMWare
2) XenServer (Linux.org runs on XenServer Enterprise)

I guess take your pick ,I'm sure you will find one you are happy with.
 
Thanks again. I tried CentOS by the way and I quite like it, it just doesn't support my wireless out of the box hence the dongle idea.
 
I've gone off Ubuntu based distro's.
I tried Fedora 18 but couldn't get Google chrome or chromium to work on it. I've since found a nice distro called Kororaa that is based on Fedora but everything works on it. It's rather good.
 
Well I bought a TP Link dongle and does it work out of the box? Does it buggery :rolleyes: :o

Ah well it was only £7. I'll have to keep trying. My heart sunk when I saw it show up as a realtek device in lsusb. I just don't seem to be getting the rub of the green with this thing.

I'll give the ndiswrapper approach a shot but even that's moaning about something to do with the configuration when I gave it a quick try earlier.
 
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