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Is the NVidia RTX performance even worse than previously reported?

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Well here's a turn up! It seems that NVidia is going to be keeping the entire 10xx series running alongside the RTX series:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasone...able-through-2018-alongside-rtx/#1133a0a13104

Pascal gaming GPUs -- also known as the 10 Series -- aren't going anywhere for the time being.

Nvidia CFO Colette Kress. At the recent Citi 2018 Global Technology Conference, Kress informed attendees "We will be selling probably for the holiday season, both our Turing and our Pascal overall architecture."

https://www.extremetech.com/computi...scal-gpus-on-store-shelves-after-rtx-launches
 
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It was announced about the rest of the 10xx series - the lower ones, but not the higher end 1080 (xx) would remain as current production.

The "Citi" call they are all quoting from was a week ago. Was in the news even before that.

All pretty obvious, really, as the 20 series is way too expensive to produce/supply in quantity right now, so Pascal was bound to be around for some time longer. And there's that glut of "mining" cards without mining homes to go to.. Pascal into 2019 was always a reality. And what Nvidia is now calling "production", the OEMs are calling "excess inventory dumped on us if we want some 20 series allocation." :D
 
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Obviously the reports which started this thread have struck a nerve at NVidia HQ, so much so that Jensen himself has passed comment:

NVIDIA claims that both GeForce RTX 2080 and GeForce RTX 2080Ti will play the latest games at 4K/60fps

https://www.dsogaming.com/news/nvid...tx-2080ti-will-play-latest-games-at-4k-60fps/

At GTC Japan 2018, Jensen Huang claimed that both the GeForce RTX 2080 and RTX 2080Ti will be able to run the latest games in 4K with 60fps, even without DLSS. Jensen shared two graphics in which we see both the RTX 2080 and the RTX 2080Ti outperforming the current fastest gaming NVIDIA GPU, the GeForce GTX1080Ti, in 4K.
 
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I am sure that settings will allow 4K 60 fps on a 2080Ti
I would certainly hope so, otherwise Nvidia have made another blunder along the same lines as the 970s 3.5GB VRAM, Maxwell's Asynchronous Compute, Pascal's HDR performance, etc. But what about the 2080 which Nvidia are also claiming 60FPS/4K with the latest games? Will it also manage that on existing titles that the 1080Ti is capable of driving? Or will we be back to guessing pixels with DLSS in an attempt to keep up?
 
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I don't understand, if it can play the latest games at 4k/60 then why wouldn't it manage older games at 4k/60? Also, why would it be slower than a 1080ti?

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Nvidia have spent a lot of time telling us that there new tech needs to be developed for / supported...

The latest games, suggests that these are the games that Nvidia is paying for support to be added to.
 
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I would certainly hope so, otherwise Nvidia have made another blunder along the same lines as the 970s 3.5GB VRAM, Maxwell's Asynchronous Compute, Pascal's HDR performance, etc. But what about the 2080 which Nvidia are also claiming 60FPS/4K with the latest games? Will it also manage that on existing titles that the 1080Ti is capable of driving? Or will we be back to guessing pixels with DLSS in an attempt to keep up?

We still never got compensation in Europe for the 3.5gb 970s, like they did in the US :(

I have one sitting in the attic which has also degraded to the point of being so unstable it's useless.
 
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The latest games, suggests that these are the games that Nvidia is paying for support to be added to.

Yeah, they will have to in order to gain a foothold. Once more and more people/devs see what is possible then the more it'll be used. Wouldn't expect wider adoption for a few years though (once the lower end RT cards have been selling for a while).
 
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