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ferraribunny

ferraribunny

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I know it's a bit generic to jump on the 4090 hate train but I don't think a large number of modern enthusiasts, who in my experience are the people buying these cards blindy and coughing up a disturbing sum of money, realise just how poor a value proposition the 4090 is relative to its cost.

It's not about "I have the money, I don't care", because if we all had that attitude a GPU would cost a minumum of 1 cheap mercedes. The reality is, the continued purchase of cards that were maliciously released to the general public is actively harming the graphics market for the rest of us. It's to a point selfish and at a bare minimum blindingly stupid. At the beginning it was debatable but as of the time of writing it's very much a room temperature IQ decision and, in my eyes, outside of workstation purposes cannot be justified.

Naturally a fair few people on this forum and potentially this thread have purchased one, and fair enough that's up to you - I understand the desire, but back in the day you didn't buy a MARS II and pretend like it was a smart puchase or worth it, you bought it because you either had a massive **** or a tiny ****. I guess the point I am trying to get to is, the reality of the 4090 and the embarssing state of it does legitimately need to be aknowledged.
If I see one more post on Reddit of someone with a 60 quid case that contains a 4090 and aiwflow of my toilet at 9:15 in the morning I may genuinely cry.

I encourage disagreement, I want to get others perspective on this and get into the mind of someone who's only been an enthusiast for a few years and doesn't grasp certain concepts yet that transcend "GPU go brrrr".
 
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ferraribunny said:
I know it's a bit generic to jump on the 4090 hate train but I don't think a large number of modern enthusiasts, who in my experience are the people buying these cards blindy and coughing up a disturbing sum of money, realise just how poor a value proposition the 4090 is relative to its cost.

It's not about "I have the money, I don't care", because if we all had that attitude a GPU would cost a minumum of 1 cheap mercedes. The reality is, the continued purchase of cards that were maliciously released to the general public is actively harming the graphics market for the rest of us. It's to a point selfish and at a bare minimum blindingly stupid. At the beginning it was debatable but as of the time of writing it's very much a room temperature IQ decision and, in my eyes, outside of workstation purposes cannot be justified.

Naturally a fair few people on this forum and potentially this thread have purchased one, and fair enough that's up to you - I understand the desire, but back in the day you didn't buy a MARS II and pretend like it was a smart puchase or worth it, you bought it because you either had a massive **** or a tiny ****. I guess the point I am trying to get to is, the reality of the 4090 and the embarssing state of it does legitimately need to be aknowledged.
If I see one more post on Reddit of someone with a 60 quid case that contains a 4090 and aiwflow of my toilet at 9:15 in the morning I may genuinely cry.

I encourage disagreement, I want to get others perspective on this and get into the mind of someone who's only been an enthusiast for a few years and doesn't grasp certain concepts yet that transcend "GPU go brrrr".
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i bort a 40 9tee n i'm brayny so kiz my a$$
 
tbf yeah people here have bought them but seeing as its a really good card for 3d work i imagine a **** load are mainly being bought out by ppl for businesses
 
If you're expecting 4090 owners around here to admit to making a mistake in buying one, for whatever reason,You're on the wrong forum. To do so would be to admit to losing control to the flex posting, E-peen desire to show off to their peers, and perceived inferiors, on this forum.

..and besides, its easy to lose sight of the fact that amongst all the hype, we're still only talking about very, very small numbers of 4090's being sold (relative to the size of the GPU market)

Its not thousands of 4090's selling out the minute they hit retail in the UK, its only a few hundred at a time, if that.
 
Cooper said:
If you're expecting 4090 owners around here to admit to making a mistake in buying one, for whatever reason,You're on the wrong forum. To do so would be to admit to losing control to the flex posting, E-peen desire to show off to their peers, and perceived inferiors, on this forum.

..and besides, its easy to lose sight of the fact that amongst all the hype, we're still only talking about very, very small numbers of 4090's being sold (relative to the size of the GPU market)

Its not thousands of 4090's selling out the minute they hit retail in the UK, its only a few hundred at a time, if that.
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must come with a lifetime supply of copium for them also
 
As someone who bought 3 original titans (because I was trying to play flight Sims on 3x1440p monitors) I remember well the vitriol that gets thrown at anyone who buys the top tier card. It's even more hilarious when a big chunk of that vitriol comes from someone who then a few weeks later buys one themselves.

I'm not buying a 4090 for the same reason I bought a 3080 over a 3090 - it's not necessary for me and the price/performance isn't there for me to want to justify it to myself (the only person that matters in this equation).
However they've also pushed the 4080 in to the same territory.
 
PC enthusiast forum, people buying the latest PC tech, PC gaming as a whole is a luxury not a necessity. You could argue that anything we buy to pursue this hobby is overpriced and unnecessary and yet we do it anyway, nothing wrong with it.

Genuinely don’t understand peoples logic with the threads and anti-X posts. I do genuinely wonder if it’s a case of people not being able to afford things others can, so they make spiteful comments etc. I want to be clear, this isn’t aimed at the OP, as I think his post is worded fine. Just a general comment from reading the other threads etc.

I like fast cars too, I don’t need one but I can still own one, the same people who moan about value for money for a GPU tend to complain about those type of purchases too. Must be tiring for them.
 
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I like fast cars too, I don’t need one but I can still own one, the same people who moan about value for money for a GPU tend to complain about those type of purchases too. Must be tiring for them.
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There are a wide range of cars from various companies to suit different budgets. Ferrari making their cars more expensive doesn't increase the price of a hot hatch.
 
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There are a wide range of cars from various companies to suit different budgets. Ferrari making their cars more expensive doesn't increase the price of a hot hatch.
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That's not applicable. The car market is wide ranging, as you mentioned, plus cars and supercars are aimed at entirely separate audiences. It's not down to NVIDIA to ensure they have competent competitors, if what you're implying they have monopolised a specific market.

As with anything, consumers don't have to buy a product if they feel it's overpriced. As with any tech, you pay more to be an early adopter to have the latest and greatest.
 
The 4090 just about hits 90fps stable in VR simracing at high settings. That's pretty impressive over the 3090.

Granted for flight sim it's still crap, but a decent upgrade. Now is that upgrade worth £1,700? No, nowhere close. I'd expect a lot more performance for £1,700.
 
Tigget said:
That's not applicable. The car market is wide ranging, as you mentioned, plus cars and supercars are aimed at entirely separate audiences. It's not down to NVIDIA to ensure they have competent competitors, if what you're implying they have monopolised a specific market.

As with anything, consumers don't have to buy a product if they feel it's overpriced. As with any tech, you pay more to be an early adopter to have the latest and greatest.
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My point was more about people attitudes. People purchasing the top end GPUs directly causes a rise in price lower down the stack and that's what annoys people. If you could decouple the price of the balls to the walls edition from the mainstream and lower end cards, I think people wouldn't be as bothered by those buying the top cards.

Price rises in the cards lower down the stack causes other issues to the hobby as a whole.
 
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