Is this a controversial opinion?

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Who cares how much it is , if the person wants it , it’s their money and their choice, mine arrived yesterday, worth every penny for me, most people who moan are the ones on a budget , quite a few of us are not . We all have things we prefer

 

[ferraribunny]

I imagine you’re not into cars, if you were you’d understand the irony of this comment given the brand being mentioned, as far more Ferrari’s have been shipped and caught fire than 4090’s.

So you’re aiming for sensationalism with your posts but accidentally doing irony, must try harder when trolling! Even the username is ironic now!

OK I get your offended but at this point you're being childish and it's pretty obvious how little you know or grasp about the current situation with the 4090 so please continue to spew rubbish I'll keep laughing

 

[ferraribunny]

I think you are mistaken. I think you are forgetting longevity. I have a 4090. I've done the sums. If I use it for two years and don't sell it on it costs me about £18 a week. If I keep it four years, that's £9 a week. At 6 years, that's £6 a week. For that I get 4k high-refresh raster gaming with no compromises and 4k RT gaming with some compromises. I get peak performance for 2 years then non-halo tier for another 2-4 years. If those figures sound fanciful then consider that my old Maxwell Titan which I bought for £974 in 2015 is still being used today by my brother (and performs much like a 3050) so that's cost something under £3 a week.

This isn't aimed at the people buying and then waiting a few years, this is aimed at the people who will hock their 4090 for the ti in a few months

These are the people who create the problem

 

[SpellowHouse]

Who cares how much it is , if the person wants it , it’s their money and their choice, mine arrived yesterday, worth every penny for me, most people who moan are the ones on a budget , quite a few of us are not . We all have things we prefer

I don't think it has anything to do with that, rather it is just perceived value. But you are right that we all have things we find it easy to justify spending a lot of money. Lets face it, a graphics card is a lot less than a Porsche, so of all the things to spend wildly on there is a lot worse than a 4090.

I think a lot of the complainers right now know that prices rose over the past four or five years due to unusual circumstances, but now see all those circumstances have gone, yet prices have not come down. To them the perceived value is very low. Or at least, that's how I see it. Having said that, I might well buy a 4090, cus lets face it, I can't see the price coming down much in the near future. Most people don't need a 4090, so there is little need for NVIDIA to reduce the price.

 

[nomadd]

I want to get others perspective on this..

Well, besides the flames, coil whine and £2k price tag, I think it's a great card.

 

[Mikeey]

I bought a 4090 for being able to handle MSFS. It’s all I really play. I accept its stupid money but I could afford it and intend to get maximum enjoyment out of it.

 

[Purgatory]

I bought a 4090 for being able to handle MSFS. It’s all I really play. I accept its stupid money but I could afford it and intend to get maximum enjoyment out of it.

Enjoy you have been after a card for a while bouncing back and forth between 3090ti and 4090. End of the day your hard earned money to enjoy.

Let us know how you get on with it with MSFS.

 

[Mikeey]

Enjoy you have been after a card for a while bouncing back and forth between 3090ti and 4090. End of the day your hard earned money to enjoy.

Let us know how you get on with it with MSFS.

Thank you, will do. Not installed it yet as too afraid of the adapter! Waiting on a bequiet 12vhpwr cable soon

 

[Haz123]

I bought a 4090 for being able to handle MSFS. It’s all I really play. I accept its stupid money but I could afford it and intend to get maximum enjoyment out of it.

From the videos I have seen from HWunboxed the performance in MSFS does look impressive and the new tech does iron out the jerkiness in that particular game. I hope you get value out of the card.

I still think the new connector is a disaster so get a new psu or adapter imho.

 

[Mikeey]

From the videos I have seen from HWunboxed the performance in MSFS does look impressive and the new tech does iron out the jerkiness in that particular game. I hope you get value out of the card.

I still think the new connector is a disaster so get a new psu or adapter imho.

Agreed. See my previous post

 

[arknor]

I know it's a bit generic to jump on the 4090 hate train but I don't think a large number of modern enthusiasts, who in my experience are the people buying these cards blindy and coughing up a disturbing sum of money, realise just how poor a value proposition the 4090 is relative to its cost.

It's not about "I have the money, I don't care", because if we all had that attitude a GPU would cost a minumum of 1 cheap mercedes. The reality is, the continued purchase of cards that were maliciously released to the general public is actively harming the graphics market for the rest of us. It's to a point selfish and at a bare minimum blindingly stupid. At the beginning it was debatable but as of the time of writing it's very much a room temperature IQ decision and, in my eyes, outside of workstation purposes cannot be justified.

Naturally a fair few people on this forum and potentially this thread have purchased one, and fair enough that's up to you - I understand the desire, but back in the day you didn't buy a MARS II and pretend like it was a smart puchase or worth it, you bought it because you either had a massive **** or a tiny ****. I guess the point I am trying to get to is, the reality of the 4090 and the embarssing state of it does legitimately need to be aknowledged.
If I see one more post on Reddit of someone with a 60 quid case that contains a 4090 and aiwflow of my toilet at 9:15 in the morning I may genuinely cry.

I encourage disagreement, I want to get others perspective on this and get into the mind of someone who's only been an enthusiast for a few years and doesn't grasp certain concepts yet that transcend "GPU go brrrr".

The worst I can't afford a 4090 but I wish I could post I ever saw

If I see one more post on Reddit of someone with a 60 quid case that contains a 4090 and aiwflow of my toilet at 9:15 in the morning I may genuinely cry.

£1600-£2100
will look cheap when divided by the amount of hours people spend gaming on them

 

[Emlyn_Dewar]

I'll not say that people buying 4090s are making a mistake, because we're on a hardware enthusiast forum. When it's a hobby or what people are enthusiastic about, then just let people buy/enjoy.
I'm not so enthusiastic these days about desktop hardware, so I'll just hold out for the scraps.

AMD's latest cards seem like they'll be more exciting for me, but even then AyaNeo/Steam Deck/OneXPlayer devices are the gaming area that seems most interesting at moment.

 

[arknor]

I'll not say that people buying 4090s are making a mistake, because we're on a hardware enthusiast forum. When it's a hobby or what people are enthusiastic about, then just let people buy/enjoy.

The same people claiming it's a mistake probably have a £200 keyboard and 800+ chair

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

£1600-£2100
will look cheap when divided by the amount of hours people spend gaming on them

This argument makes me laugh because you can do the exact same thing for the cheaper graphics cards and they just end up looking like better value.

I wonder if you are better off with a midrange and just upgrading every generation.

The same people claiming it's a mistake probably have a £200 keyboard and 800+ chair

The chair has a direct affect on your health, so that is in a different category.

 

[arknor]

The chair has a direct affect on your health, so that is in a different category.

you don't need to spend 800+ on a chair to get that though.


You could claim a GPU has an impact on your mental health and eyes, doesn't mean you need to spend 2k to get it

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

you don't need to spend 800+ on a chair to get that though.


You could claim a GPU has an impact on your mental health and eyes, doesn't mean you need to spend 2k to get it

Depends on the chair and the needs of that persons body, though from what I understand the high end chairs you are referring to you are paying for the level of customisation and a chair that is proven to last a very long time with daily 8 hour usage.


I don’t think anyone would try and claim high frame rate helps their mental health. And the eye thing is a bunch of nonsense

 

[arknor]

I don’t think anyone would try and claim high frame rate helps their mental health. And the eye thing is a bunch of nonsense

bigger monitor with higher res the less close you need to sit and higher fps is better for eye strain.

I had an Ikea markus last me like 10 years

 

[skullkid]

I don't really get it for gamers as the trade off to I believe in 99.9% of cases people won't see an improvement over a 3090 just isn't justifiable. A huge power guzzler that is ridiculous in size and has potential issues with connectors plus a price of around 2 grand. It definitely is a case of willy wangling in almost all cases.

 

[arknor]

I don't really get it for gamers as the trade off to I believe in 99.9% of cases people won't see an improvement over a 3090 just isn't justifiable. A huge power guzzler that is ridiculous in size and has potential issues with connectors plus a price of around 2 grand. It definitely is a case of willy wangling in almost all cases.

It's not a huge power guzzler though.
most of the time mine is using like 200-350watt at most


if you can't tell the difference between 60fps and 100+ you probably old , one seems a lot smoother than the other to me, maybe it's just an input lag thing


higher refresh/frames have lower frame times?

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

bigger monitor with higher res the less close you need to sit and higher fps is better for eye strain.

I had an Ikea markus last me like 10 years

how close are you sitting to the monitor that you are concerned about eye strain? If you get any closer you might notice all the areas DLSS/FSR falls apart.

Also low FPS causes eye strain. Really mate. I'm guessing you can't watch a film without getting a headache.