Sorry, edited my post to correct and explain it properly.
You need to leave the TV on at the mains for it to kick in when the TV is in standby mode.
Is this OLED screen-burn worth bothering about?
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Sorry, edited my post to correct and explain it properly.
You need to leave the TV on at the mains for it to kick in when the TV is in standby mode.
1 year. LG gave me a list of "do this" and "don't do this" - and as long as you followed it, they would provide burn in warranty for the standard TV's warranty period.
Sony said it doesn't matter what I do with the TV, they would replace it within the standard warranty period for burn in.
Here is LG's policy
1. Screen saver- LGs wall paper slide show (screen saver) is set to show images that would refresh all the pixels and help prevent image burn (Screen saver is automatically activated if the TV left idle or have not received any inputs from the remote control for a couple of minutes. While in other TV models, screen saver can be activated through the Picture Settings)
2. Screen Shift - A setting that moves the screen slightly at regular intervals to prevent image sticking on the display panel (Settings > Picture > OLED Panel Settings > Screen shift > ON).
3. Pixel Refresher/Clear panel noise - It calibrates any issues that may arise on the screen when your TV has been turned on for a long time. Calibration takes an hour or more. Running the 'Clear Panel Noise' or 'Pixel Refresher' (daily or once every 2 days) will not do the TV any harm, nor will have any negative impact. (Settings > OLED Panel Setting > Pixel Refresher/Clear Panel Noise)
4. Refrain from using the TV on Vivid Mode or setting high contrast and and maximum brightness for prolonged period of time.
Sony said it doesn't matter what I do with the TV, they would replace it within the standard warranty period for burn in.
Here is LG's policy
1. Screen saver- LGs wall paper slide show (screen saver) is set to show images that would refresh all the pixels and help prevent image burn (Screen saver is automatically activated if the TV left idle or have not received any inputs from the remote control for a couple of minutes. While in other TV models, screen saver can be activated through the Picture Settings)
2. Screen Shift - A setting that moves the screen slightly at regular intervals to prevent image sticking on the display panel (Settings > Picture > OLED Panel Settings > Screen shift > ON).
3. Pixel Refresher/Clear panel noise - It calibrates any issues that may arise on the screen when your TV has been turned on for a long time. Calibration takes an hour or more. Running the 'Clear Panel Noise' or 'Pixel Refresher' (daily or once every 2 days) will not do the TV any harm, nor will have any negative impact. (Settings > OLED Panel Setting > Pixel Refresher/Clear Panel Noise)
4. Refrain from using the TV on Vivid Mode or setting high contrast and and maximum brightness for prolonged period of time.
If I listened to all the people that said don't buy Plasma, they're evil so to speak I'd have never experienced it. Glad I did as Plasma truly is a beautiful TV.
As for OLED, I'll agree with you. I can game on the console up to 6 hours at a time some nights with lots of bright white hud elements and have never suffered image retention on the OLED.
which gives you 6 years under consumer rights, for a manufacturing defect, and there is the Richer/JL warranties ...
you just have to remember the tv may well record what your use pattern has been, so don't abuse it.
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I used plasmas in the cinema mode.
Even today my gt50 with no gaming use in over 4 years will get retention if I leave something on it for too long.
That is with zero gaming usage I bought a monitor after owning the gt50 for a few months the retention was that bad and decided never to game on it again. I then ended up getting a Sony w809c then upgraded that to an xf90. I buy a new TV every other year.
I still own 3 of them and I still use the plasma daily. However my experience with plasma has left a bitter taste when it comes to burn and retention. The burn in happened on the living room plasma a Samsung d8000 which was on pretty much 14 hours a day until it was replaced. Not normal usage I know but still. The GT50 gets used for like 2 hours a day it will get retention if you leave say sky sports on for 4 hours straight, it clears up after 30 mins but still a keen eye can see it.
I may buy an oled at some point but i will never game on one the xf90 is my gaming TV. So I imagine that under that usage I will never experience any issues.
Even today my gt50 with no gaming use in over 4 years will get retention if I leave something on it for too long.
That is with zero gaming usage I bought a monitor after owning the gt50 for a few months the retention was that bad and decided never to game on it again. I then ended up getting a Sony w809c then upgraded that to an xf90. I buy a new TV every other year.
I still own 3 of them and I still use the plasma daily. However my experience with plasma has left a bitter taste when it comes to burn and retention. The burn in happened on the living room plasma a Samsung d8000 which was on pretty much 14 hours a day until it was replaced. Not normal usage I know but still. The GT50 gets used for like 2 hours a day it will get retention if you leave say sky sports on for 4 hours straight, it clears up after 30 mins but still a keen eye can see it.
I may buy an oled at some point but i will never game on one the xf90 is my gaming TV. So I imagine that under that usage I will never experience any issues.
I was reading the AVForums just now and came across this.
It's doesn't really explain what the maintenance cycles are but I always assumed it would be some kind of wear levelling like you described but who knows. At least it explains why my TV would power up (albeit not the screen) every night.
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Shame, you should game on an OLED - the B8 is still Rtings best gaming telly around and I’m surprised you don’t feel the lag on the Sony on 1080p games
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Shame, you should game on an OLED - the B8 is still Rtings best gaming telly around and I’m surprised you don’t feel the lag on the Sony on 1080p games
anything under 45ms isn't noticeable IMO and i play 4K anyway ps4 pro so it's 20ms
I've done a lot of HDR gaming on my E6 & no game has damaged the TV.
For how long do you play
I can play HDR games up to 6 hours a time and quite often I'll pause the game and go have lunch for 30 minutes and come back
When playing a HDR game for a few hours I'll try not leave it on a static scene for too long. Xbox is set to auto dim after no input after a minute or two as well.
Sweet, sounds good. I believe the burn in thing is way overplayed - I've watched videos related to burn in on youtube and the overwhelming comments are people saying they play games on their oled and have no issues.
The impression I get is as long as you don't turn off the burn in mitigations that LG puts in the software, then the chance of getting actual burn in is like 5% even playing games for like 5 hours a day - and I'll have 5 years warranty on my TV when I get it so even if burn does occur, the TV will be replaced or repaired
My PS4 PRO goes into standby mode after 10 minutes with no input. However my PC won't do anything so the game will stay open and on the screen so I need to maybe just turn the TV off when I pause my PC games
The impression I get is as long as you don't turn off the burn in mitigations that LG puts in the software, then the chance of getting actual burn in is like 5% even playing games for like 5 hours a day - and I'll have 5 years warranty on my TV when I get it so even if burn does occur, the TV will be replaced or repaired
My PS4 PRO goes into standby mode after 10 minutes with no input. However my PC won't do anything so the game will stay open and on the screen so I need to maybe just turn the TV off when I pause my PC games
If you turn your TV off whilst in game on PC, it ***** up the windows i.e. when you go back to turn the TV on, it will change resolution etc. and the game will either be on your main monitor or just a black screen on the TV.
Either way, PC may not activate a screen saver when in a full screen application, however, it lowers the brightness to like 0 or something very low after a few minutes.
Either way, PC may not activate a screen saver when in a full screen application, however, it lowers the brightness to like 0 or something very low after a few minutes.
The screens are plenty bright enough for normal conditions, not sure why you would need to max the panel brightness, I'm on around 70 with some power saving enabled so it dims the display slightly, that's more than bright enough, even this is too bright at times, especially for non-HDR content.
Mine is from 2016 and it's still fine as far as I can tell; if it's something you can only see when looking for it I wouldn't worry about it too much.
Mine is from 2016 and it's still fine as far as I can tell; if it's something you can only see when looking for it I wouldn't worry about it too much.
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For me? The TV it’s replacing is a Sammy qled which has 400nits peak SDR brightness. I’ve got the TV permanent lily set to brightness 45/100 and backlight 8/20. But when HDR content is detected backlight is raised automatically to 20/20.
The room has lots of windows but usually I keep them mostly closed as I cannot stand glare or reflections
QLED displays are stupidly bright though, uncomfortably so imo.
That said most new OLED sets should be around 330nits for peak SDR content, that does vary quite a lot though depending on what's being displayed, that's just the way the technology works.
More so, on European models are they're power limited (stupid EU laws), so not sure that's really accurate.