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macey79

macey79

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Hi

I am new to SSD and raid, I am thinking of getting a couple of SSD to put them into raid0 setup but I am wondering if I am able to also have a normal HDD for storage.

So my question is can you have 2xSSD in raid0 and have 1xHDD as slave for storage (music/pic/movies etc).

Or is the most common way to have 1xSSD + 1xHDD not set it raid.

Cheers.
 
You can, but instead of two SSDs I'd spend more on one better/bigger one. You'll not notice the difference "in the real world" unless obsessive benchmarking is how you use your computer day to day

Just my 2p
 
d_brennen said:
You can, but instead of two SSDs I'd spend more on one better/bigger one. You'll not notice the difference "in the real world" unless obsessive benchmarking is how you use your computer day to day

Just my 2p
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yeah true,raid 0 wont support trim either
 
Cheers for the fast replies.

So you would go for something like Intel 520 180 or 240gb instead of say raiding 2x120's?

I wont be doing obsessive benchmarking, I will mainly be gaming with some video editing here and there.
 
+1 Larger single SSD.

No need to raid them.

If you, like me, want some high performance storage on HDDs then consider RAID 0/1/5ing them.

I run 1 x 120Gb vertex 3 in single disk mode and 2 x 2TB HDDs in RAID 0. No issues!
 
Geez i've got about 3 RAID 0 SSD arrays and haven't see a performance drop in over a year, trim trim trim.. seems to be the in word.

I would get a bigger SSD though, to save on the hassle and potential loss of RAID 0, mine are specific but the average user won't really benefit much.
 
Justintime said:
Geez i've got about 3 RAID 0 SSD arrays and haven't see a performance drop in over a year, trim trim trim.. seems to be the in word.

I would get a bigger SSD though, to save on the hassle and potential loss of RAID 0, mine are specific but the average user won't really benefit much.
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they dont make trim for fun
 
well I have a 1TB HDD at the moment that I want to keep just to store movies and pic etc. My budget is going to be around £200ish but could stretch to around £300. just wondered if it was possible to keep that HDD and have 2xSSD in a raid0 array or if there would be a performance loss if I was to do that. Obviously the SSD would be for the OS and programs such as games/photoshop and video editing software.
 
Justintime said:
Stop it mate. TRIM is only one part of the equation, drives have their own form of GC as well and if you know what you're doing you won't see any performance decrease.
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intel are supposed to be releasing trim support for raid,it should be out but how soon idk,and yh garbage collection will be fine but like others have said raid 0 is risky incase it crashes ect and doesnt really ofer any or much performance increase
 
Intel and RAID TRIM support have been talked about for yonks. The rumor mill has been going for 2 years + now and one release has notes about it being added in the next release, one can hope but i won't hold my breath.
 
Do you really need more than 550MB/sec or for that matter 1000+?

If not, pointless going RAID with SSDs imo.

If performance is REALLY that important to you go for a PCI-E solution.
 
Sin_Chase said:
Do you really need more than 550MB/sec or for that matter 1000+?

If not, pointless going RAID with SSDs imo.

If performance is REALLY that important to you go for a PCI-E solution.
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This is something I am not really sure about. I may not need 1000+, like I said I am new to raid setups and even SSD. I have used a normal 1TB HDD for ages now I am noticing things are a bit slower than before. I have recently build a new machine and most of it is fairly high end but I have not upgraded the hard drive for some years now. I know most gamers use raid0 setups so I am kinda curious how good they are.
 
Most gamers do not raid SSDs, anything past 550MB/sec is literally a waste of time.

Most people use single SSDs.

I get into servers first on a single Vertex 3 and I doubt I am even near saturating the throughput of a single SSD. Why RAID them for diminishing returns?

Big numbers are attractive but in the real world I doubt raided SSDs have any noticeable benefit in day-to-day. Raided HDDs yes, noticeable gain above a single disk because of the relatively low performance compared to an SSD.
 
Sin_Chase said:
Most gamers do not raid SSDs, anything past 550MB/sec is literally a waste of time.

Most people use single SSDs.

I get into servers first on a single Vertex 3 and I doubt I am even near saturating the throughput of a single SSD. Why RAID them for diminishing returns?

Big numbers are attractive but in the real world I doubt raided SSDs have any noticeable benefit in day-to-day. Raided HDDs yes, noticeable gain above a single disk because of the relatively low performance compared to an SSD.
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Ok. I might have been mislead from what I have read and been told then.

Thanks for all the advice on here I really appreciate it. Think I will go for a single one then with plenty of space.
 
what would you say is one of the best SSD (around 240gb) on the market at the moment? not just performance but also reliability, I hear some have firmware problems. I have been reading some reviews and much seems rather confusing tbh so I am not sure what one to go for ><
 
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macey79 said:
what would you say is one of the best SSD (around 240gb) on the market at the moment? not just performance but also reliability, I hear some have firmware problems. I have been reading some reviews and much seems rather confusing tbh so I am not sure what one to go for ><
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Intel 520s are a good bet (Anandtech review here). Fast and reliable although a little more expensive. I have Vertex II and Vertex III drives as well as an Intel 520 and Adata S510. The Intel, Vertex III and Adata are all SATA III and the others are SATA II. I personally notice no real difference between any of them performance wise (General office stuff, internet stuff and games). I would stay well clear of the Vertex III range. I have had nothing but problems with mine. My Vertex II drives (2x60GB, one each in two separate machines) have never shown an issue.

My personal preference out of the drives I have used would be;
1. Intel 520 (reliability and quality).
2. Adata S510/S511 (cheaper version of the Intel 520 with different firmware).
3. Vertex II.

I have not tried Crucial, Kingston (well one SSD now entry level Gen 1 unit that was dog slow), Samsung or any other brands personally so cannot comment on them.

RB
 
I have a 64gb Samsung SSD as an OS drive from Feb 2009 that is chugging along, just bought a 256gb Samsung. I haven't heard any unreliability stories about Samsungs.
 
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