ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.

So with shariah courts do or do not get dealt with by the law? I think they go largely untouched...

I'm not sure what your question is.

Are you saying that if there is a private court that breaks the law, and this comes to the knowledge of law enforcement, they would turn a blind eye to it?

Do you have any evidence to support this claim?
 
I'm not sure what your question is.

Are you saying that if there is a private court that breaks the law, and this comes to the knowledge of law enforcement, they would turn a blind eye to it?

Do you have any evidence to support this claim?

Well lets be honest...Rotherham is a stinky fine example of "don't poke it, it will be fine".
 
I'm not sure what your question is.

Are you saying that if there is a private court that breaks the law, and this comes to the knowledge of law enforcement, they would turn a blind eye to it?

Do you have any evidence to support this claim?

From the examples i already provided we can see that sexist outcomes are commonplace. The entire process is. Therefore the courts break discrimination rights, capiche?
 
Strange, I get the same now but earlier it let me read the article - apologies for that. Here's the same article on yahoo news: http://news.yahoo.com/why-russian-engineers-working-islamic-231014093.html

Just goes to show that this conflict is a lot more complex than the MSM are portraying it as. The only thing I'm sure of is that the only real allies "the west" has are other western nations.

But it's it widely known that Assad pays for government services in enemy held territories. He does keep electricity, gas etc flowing where possible. Can you imagine the uproar if he did not do this and people were dying because of it.
 
But it's it widely known that Assad pays for government services in enemy held territories. He does keep electricity, gas etc flowing where possible. Can you imagine the uproar if he did not do this and people were dying because of it.

I'm sure managing "the uproar" is central to Assad's war plan, that's why he hasn't killed most of the quarter of a million people who have died in the conflict so far.
 
I'm sure managing "the uproar" is central to Assad's war plan, that's why he hasn't killed most of the quarter of a million people who have died in the conflict so far.

This has been going on the entire war and is not just with ISIS. So you are wrong. Like it or lump it Assad has been at least attempting to keep the national infrastructure going.

Also have you and independent statistics to confirm that Assad have killed nearly all the 250,000 people? or are you just quoting the anti Assad propaganda?
 
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This has been going on the entire war and is not just with ISIS. So you are wrong. Like it or lump it Assad has been at least attempting to keep the national infrastructure going.

Also have you and independent statistics to confirm that Assad have killed nearly all the 250,000 people? or are you just quoting the anti Assad propaganda?

Don't you get it Assad is personally guilty of every single death in the middle east since the pipeline proxies were unleashed, just like Putin is responsible for the deaths and corruption in facist occupied ukraine or FOCU as it's known.

In that weird press conference where the foreign ministers spoke about Syria did everyone notice how more screwed up and emotional hammond got with each escalation of his lies, Perfidious Albion indeed.
 
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Don't you get it Assad is personally guilty of every single death in the middle east since the pipeline proxies were unleashed, just like Putin is responsible for the deaths and corruption in facist occupied ukraine or FOKU as it's known.


"guilty of every single death in the middle east" what drugs you on?
 
This has been going on the entire war and is not just with ISIS. So you are wrong. Like it or lump it Assad has been at least attempting to keep the national infrastructure going.

Also have you and independent statistics to confirm that Assad have killed nearly all the 250,000 people? or are you just quoting the anti Assad propaganda?

Yeah, there's plenty of evidence of the scale and depravity of the Assad regime's war crimes. Something tells me though that whatever I give you, whether it be from the UN, Human Rights Organisations, Medical Organisations will be dismissed as "anti Assad propaganada", so I don't think I'll bother :rolleyes:
 
Don't you get it Assad is personally guilty of every single death in the middle east since the pipeline proxies were unleashed, just like Putin is responsible for the deaths and corruption in facist occupied ukraine or FOCU as it's known.

Citation needed.

Is that better.
 
Yeah, there's plenty of evidence of the scale and depravity of the Assad regime's war crimes. Something tells me though that whatever I give you, whether it be from the UN, Human Rights Organisations, Medical Organisations will be dismissed as "anti Assad propaganada", so I don't think I'll bother :rolleyes:

Do you mean like the laughable Syrian Observatory for Human Rights? run by a single Wahhabi terrorist in London? etc.

No one is saying life in Syria is wonderful, the whole country is at war. To say Assad is responsible for the 250,000 deaths is ludicrous. He is currently fighting predominantly people who were no even born in Syria and are there to fight a holy war in effect and no im not simply talking about ISIS. I'm talking about the 10's if not 100s of like minded organisations.

The simple fact is the country would be in a far worse state if Assad was to go.
 
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Citation needed.

Is that better.

No, categorically No as anyone other than a doofus of the highest order would recognise that I was poking fun at the hyperbolic anti Assad and Putin merchants of the British press and body politic who need a simple personalised objet to hit with their pathetic bile.
 
No, categorically No as anyone other than a doofus of the highest order would recognise that I was poking fun at the hyperbolic anti Assad and Putin merchants of the British press and body politic who need a simple personalised objet to hit with their pathetic bile.

You do talk rubbish....oh dear.
 
If it's part of school lunch or unlabelled in supermarkets how does that work? See instead of trying to fix the issue you are basically saying 'get used to it'. My point is it should be a, banned, b, not force fed to everyone, c, clearly labelled if allowed to be sold at all.

By exempting it from the law and not enforcing labelling or restricting it's resale we are effectively encouraging islam to be here. We aren't discouraging it or even playing it safe and going 50/50 we are literally encouraging it. We don'tmonitor or minute or hold shariah courts to proper standards, we turn away and let them do whatever they want. Why?

If it's unlabelled and or unknowable then how is it encoraging Islam? Muslims aren't going to buy the meat either as they don't know whether it is halal...

If you are that intensely against it then only buy from places that guarantee it isn't halal. As someone that can't eat some things (allergy) I have to do that regularly. I have a low amount of time for people who complain due to their lifestyle choice (which this is for you) and don't just ask.

As I said before, how is it affecting you? You obviously aren't interested in the animal welfare side so it's only the religious part. Someone muttering a few words over an animal isn't going to change anything for any of us non Muslims. I just don't see there being an issue.
 
If it's unlabelled and or unknowable then how is it encoraging Islam? Muslims aren't going to buy the meat either as they don't know whether it is halal...

If you are that intensely against it then only buy from places that guarantee it isn't halal. As someone that can't eat some things (allergy) I have to do that regularly. I have a low amount of time for people who complain due to their lifestyle choice (which this is for you) and don't just ask.

As I said before, how is it affecting you? You obviously aren't interested in the animal welfare side so it's only the religious part. Someone muttering a few words over an animal isn't going to change anything for any of us non Muslims. I just don't see there being an issue.

Well because its cheaper - and by permitting it to become mass market and take over from non halal meats - it is encouraging muslims to come here. It legitimises the methods amd religion.

It's become a question, where can i go? Kfc, subway, etc all halal in the area...

You ask me why it bothers me, equally why would it bother anyone else if it wasn't? I don't want my food feted to a false god or prophet. Why would i want that? You might think it trivial, but if it's that trivial why does it need to be halal at all?

By pandering and not blocking its mass market resale. We are promoting the country as extremely islam friendly. Same with shariah courts.
 
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