ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.

Is the bombing of hospitals to facilitate a faster spread of refugees into Europe, to keep Europe distracted?
I can't see what else bombing hospitals achieves.

Denies the enemy medical treatment. At the start of the civil war Assad passed a law making it a criminal offence to offer medical aid to anyone fighting his regime. Russia's definition of a terrorist seems to be anyone who isn't in an Assad controlled part of the country, so that includes doctors, nurses, sick kids etc.
 
Oh scorza stop pretending the uk press is anything other than an establishment mouth piece used to promote war or personify their enemies be they nations or benefit recipients, to whip the plebs into a patriotic frenzy.

There's never any proof and any evidence proffered is not substantive.
 
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rule 35 of the Geneva conventions makes it a war crime to bomb a hospital being used exclusively for humanitarian purposes.

don't care what assad or putin say - even hitler didn't go around bombing hospitals.
 
rule 35 of the Geneva conventions makes it a war crime to bomb a hospital being used exclusively for humanitarian purposes.

don't care what assad or putin say - even hitler didn't go around bombing hospitals.

A yes hitler did do that very thing and b there were no Russian or Syrian planes in that airspace.
 
Citation needed.

No it isn't as hitler's airforce reduced entire towns and cities to rubble ur*******go he bombed hospitals!

If the better educated or more intelligent posters had to cite everything the thickets hereabouts didn't know the forum would be one big citation.
 
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Maybe he was asking for citation about b) ? :p

That's a fluid situation and any lsm who have reported on it by now will be dissed as russian propaganda, again with no proof or substantive evidence. However the yanks have provided no evidence from satellites proving the Russians are lying which they would do if such existed.

Plus the initial exchange was a poster ignorantly saying even hitler didn't bomb hospitals which he clearly did and the yanks have done countless times in the past 15 years.
 
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That's a fluid situation and any lsm who have reported on it by now will be dissed as russian propaganda, again with no proof or substantive evidence. However the yanks have provided no evidence from satellites proving the Russians are lying which they would do if such existed.

Plus the initial exchange was a poster ignorantly saying even hitler didn't bomb hospitals which he clearly did and the yanks have done countless time in the past 15 years.

prove beyond all doubt that hitler ONLY bombed a hospital and nothing else around it? with photogra[hic evidence supporting your argument.

bombing an entire city doesn't count btw - as I asked for just a hospital.

oh and the Geneva conventions were drawn up to stop such a thing after ww2 in 1949.
 
prove beyond all doubt that hitler ONLY bombed a hospital and nothing else around it? with photogra[hic evidence supporting your argument.

bombing an entire city doesn't count btw - as I asked for just a hospital.

oh and the Geneva conventions were drawn up to stop such a thing after ww2 in 1949.

Why only a hospital with nothing else around it most hospitals are in towns and cities, you dont get to set out the parameters or list provisos.
 
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More Russian/Assad war crimes :mad: I think what we're witnessing here is the 21st century's first genocide, and there's nothing we can do about it - the UN is full of corrupt power brokers on the Putin payroll.

As usual you have it totally wrong.

These were not labelled as hospitals (going off my reading)

There is no proof that Russia did this as Turkey is also shelling around that area.

White helmets in Syria = Propaganda

These "hospitals" are know to just be treating the "moderate" rebels such as al-Nusra.

So if there is a genocide happening against organisations such as Al nusra, ISIS, Islamic front, Ansar al-Sham etc im alll for it.

When in reality they real genocide is only a matter of time away with Turkey and the Kurds, just as they did the Armenian's
 
But Russia and Assad aren't even fighting the Islamic State - it's an old fashioned ethnic conflict between Alawites (Assad) in the west of Syria versus the Sunni population in the large population centres like Aleppo.


Are you so dumb you Don't even know who is fighting where?

ISIS are fighting around Aleppo, Al nusra are also there as well as numerous other wonderful terrorists.

In fact ISIS have jsut been cleared out of the thermal power plant in Aleppo.

You still can not get into your head there are next to NO moderate rebels in Syria. One of the groups Turkey request to go to the peace talks and might i add went. Were putting non sunni civilians in cages and putting them at strategic sites.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...aged-pro-Assad-captives-as-human-shields.html There are one of your moderate rebel groups Jaish al-Islam
 
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That's a fluid situation and any lsm who have reported on it by now will be dissed as russian propaganda, again with no proof or substantive evidence. However the yanks have provided no evidence from satellites proving the Russians are lying which they would do if such existed.

Plus the initial exchange was a poster ignorantly saying even hitler didn't bomb hospitals which he clearly did and the yanks have done countless times in the past 15 years.

Right.
So are you saying the Russians did it?
Or did they not do it?
If not, then who did it?

You tell us your actual thoughts on the bombing and who did it, rather than talking all around the issue. Who bombed the hospitals?
 
Why only a hospital with nothing else around it most hospitals are in towns and cities, you dont get to set out the parameters or list provisos.

because that was the location attacked with nothing else.

so you sadly cannot disprove what I have said
 
Whoever thought that nice clean rules for war would work was rather naive.

war is about missions , objectives and body counts. just try to bomb the military and machines of war and the ability to make them rather than those who are not actively involved.

but it would seem we had heading to `total` war - or entropy based warfare .

still thep02 hasn't answered my question
 
I blame some jews for israels actions. But this thread is about islam, isis amd not Judaism. Is is are isis irrespective of israel. In fact they haven't directly come to an altercation with them have they?

Muslims are the front line of virtually all the terror groups in the ME. Why should the arab league do anything? Fighting isis would be a start. Or what are they there for? I guess with SA indiscriminately bombing yemen their resources are all tied up?

This thread is about Deash I am using others religions to show how stupid it is to blame to whole religion on actions of terrorists who don't even following the religious teachings. That is why i came up with examples for So called Jewish, Christian groups who commit disgusting acts that are against their religious teachings.

I asked why should the Arab League bomb boko harm in Nigeria? not the Deash. You have not shown any evidence that deash follow Islamic teaching yet you bang on about Islam.

If you even bothered to do your research you would see that the country's form the Arab league are fighting the Deash, the Arab League was created to increase "close cooperation on matters of economics, communication, culture, nationality, social welfare, and health. Not fly to Africa and bomb Boko Haram...
 
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This thread is about Deash I am using others religions to show how stupid it is to blame to whole religion on actions of terrorists who don't even following the religious teachings. That is why i came up with examples for So called Jewish, and Christian groups who commit disgusting acts that are against their religious teaching.

I asked why should the Arab League bomb boko harm in Nigeria? not the Deash in Syria or Iraq. As you seem to think that every country with Muslims majority should go fight them. You have not shown any evidence that deash follow Islamic teaching yet you bang on about Islam.

If you even bothered to do your research you would see that the country's form the Arab league are bombing the Deash, the Arab League was created to increase "close cooperation on matters of economics, communication, culture, nationality, social welfare, and health.

which of the arab league are still involved? Saudi arabia and the uae long ago stopped bombing daesh (and some would say Saudi arabia fund them)

Bahrain are fighting its own shia majority - and Saudi are now fighting the shia in yeman.

so which arab league are partaking now?
 
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