Soldato
to many wet pieces in this country, good riddance to them i say.
ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.
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Man of Honour
Just hope when it's "JJ's" turn they put a little extra sunshine on the missile tip, if you know what I mean.
Is it wrong of me to hope they miss the kill shot and just wing him, badly enough that he is certain to flip his final flop but leaving him so he has a long enough time to appreciate the suffering he inflicted on others before he shuffles his mortal coil.
Yes, as I've said, vengeance has no place in justice, and wishing suffering on anyone is morally indefensible (tho understandable).
What all of these people have is a kind of severe mental illness. One which is not possible to recover from. So no expensive hospital treatment, just flip the switch, end his life, and move on. Instantly and painlessly. Justice.
Man of Honour
I agree and was simply musing on how an instant death is somewhat a very easy way out for such a terrible individual. That said I can't help but appreciate the stress of knowing that every sound or shape in the sky must shred their nerves knowing what might come. The closest they will come to the suffering they caused and they probably go through it constantly.
Soldato
Russia gearing up for something in Syria
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/11846382/Russia-is-building-military-base-in-Syria.html
Shortly followed by Cameron deciding that both Assad and IS have to go.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/pmqs/11853309/Prime-Ministers-Questions-live.html
21st Century Cold War episode 2 to be premiering on TV news near you, coming soon!
Kind of funny that in Ukraine Russia was supporting the rebels, but in Syria it'll be the UK and America supporting the rebels (although I'm sure they'll go to great pains to explain that Assad's government doesn't count, while the Ukrainian government was like totally 100% legit).
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/11846382/Russia-is-building-military-base-in-Syria.html
Shortly followed by Cameron deciding that both Assad and IS have to go.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/pmqs/11853309/Prime-Ministers-Questions-live.html
21st Century Cold War episode 2 to be premiering on TV news near you, coming soon!
Kind of funny that in Ukraine Russia was supporting the rebels, but in Syria it'll be the UK and America supporting the rebels (although I'm sure they'll go to great pains to explain that Assad's government doesn't count, while the Ukrainian government was like totally 100% legit).
Caporegime
Russia is about to find itself woefully out of its depth I'd say.
That's been the UK's position from the start. Just think, if Assad had done the decent thing and gone into exile with his billions then all this mess may have been averted.
Do you really think that? Look at what has happened to Iraq and Libya since the US implemented western policy and a US backed regime. The people are far worse off.
Caporegime
I think an orderly transition of power is better than a disorderly one - as happened in Iraq and Libya.
Who does Dave think he is? Declaring other countries leaders as 'illegitimate', what a twit.
Perhaps if Britain and the US supported the Syrian army, who are the most effective force against the terrorist group ISIS, we would see some progress.
Where is the international effort for a political resolution to the conflict? Assad and Russia have made far bigger efforts in this regard, shameful.
Perhaps if Britain and the US supported the Syrian army, who are the most effective force against the terrorist group ISIS, we would see some progress.
Where is the international effort for a political resolution to the conflict? Assad and Russia have made far bigger efforts in this regard, shameful.
Especially ironic given that they forced the pro-Russian Ukrainian president into exile - so the current Ukrainian government is less than legitimate - whilst Assad was democratically elected and has an approval rating >50%. Yet the want Assad out, and back the illegitimate Ukrainian govt.
Consistency? Well yes. We consistently meddle around in other countries to suit our own interests.
Soldato
Sorry, says who?
Iraq will get there, this transistion from dictator to democracy takes time ya know.
YEA GOOD ONE M8! So you know nothing of the situation then.
I'd be willing to bet America alone has killed more ISIS than the syrian army.
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Caporegime
I read this morning that the Syrian armed force have killed more civilians that the Islamic State have.
Caporegime
Wasn't it a bit late to hold a presidential election after a civil war breaks out? I mean, once that happens you've pretty much failed as president, maybe if he'd held them before war broke out then we could have avoided this mess.
You sound like that's a bad thing.
Better open your wallet then pal, Assad has zero support from the 'coalition' and the coalition have zero troops on the ground. How many ISIS have been killed by America in Syria, a few hundred? The Syrian army have been fighting them along with other militant groups for YEARS M8. If the Syrian army stopped fighting ISIS would be beheading their way across Damascus within days.
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Assad is a ****, but who are the west most likely to reach a political deal with? ISIS? The FSA doesn't exist anymore. The west chose to back the rebels years ago which has been a total failure, now they are talking about political deals with Assad.
Caporegime
What backing did we provide them? Some uniforms and food? Big deal. Assad was instrumental in the growth of the Islamic State - he released thousands of jihadis from Syrian jails at the start of the civil war. Why? To portray himself as the defender of secularism and human rights in Syria - don't fall for it.
Russia isn't like us they won't be restricted by combat rules that put them at risk
The situation is fluid and very different from the start of the civil war. The west has no FSA to train or provide 'uniforms and food' for. They are either dead or have defected to ISIS/Al qaeda. The unintended consequences of the wars in the middle east over the past decade have contributed far more to ISIS than Assad.
The West's policy in Syria is incoherent, they want war with Assad but tripped over themselves when Putin got involved. They've tried supporting rebels and ended up with pictures of senator Mcain getting trolled by ISIS. So what are they going to do, casually bomb the middle east and keep their fingers crossed that ISIS defeat Assad? And then bomb ISIS for 20 years whilst they get settled in on the Turkish border?
Syria needs an end to the war not regime change using high explosives - don't fall for it.
The West's policy in Syria is incoherent, they want war with Assad but tripped over themselves when Putin got involved. They've tried supporting rebels and ended up with pictures of senator Mcain getting trolled by ISIS. So what are they going to do, casually bomb the middle east and keep their fingers crossed that ISIS defeat Assad? And then bomb ISIS for 20 years whilst they get settled in on the Turkish border?
Syria needs an end to the war not regime change using high explosives - don't fall for it.
Well it was working out for our big multinationals, and our governments, until very recently. But now it looks like the chickens have come home to roost, big style.