ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.

Roar87 · 2 Jul 2015 at 20:01

Von Smallhausen said:
Anything to get some attention. It's disrespectful to the dead at the very least.

I love how you immediately take what he posted as the full truth, as if he just said 1 minutes silence is ******** without any other commentary or explanation.

opethdisciple · 2 Jul 2015 at 20:11

Personally, I would like to see Islam tackle this problem with radicals and fundamentalists from within.

For us Westerners to try and do it, we are just giving the fundamentalists the ammo they need to support their rhetoric.

This is dangerous. How do you eradicate them, when they are theoretically everywhere and nowhere?

I believe there will always be fundamentalists. However hard we try to stop them. This is why the best way to deal with this is from within. Islam needs to destroy this fundamentalist ideology that is destroying their own religion.

John40 · 2 Jul 2015 at 20:18

Roar87 said:
I love how you immediately take what he posted as the full truth, as if he just said 1 minutes silence is ******** without any other commentary or explanation.

Doesn't need any explanation, whatever his immature childish irrelevant views are to call a one minute silence for 30 murdered British people total **Removed** is despicable.

**Please fully star out any swearing in future**

JohnnyG · 2 Jul 2015 at 20:27

scorza said:
Then you also have to include Bosnia and Kosovo imo - we should have let the Serbs ethnically cleanse these areas rather than let them become hotbeds of jihadism.

No-one should let anyone ethnically cleanse anywhere :/

SciNeT · 2 Jul 2015 at 20:27

John40 said:
Doesn't need any explanation, whatever his immature childish irrelevant views are to call a one minute silence for 30 murdered British people total ****** is despicable.

It is, but if we implemented a minute's silence for every terror attack by Muslims we'd end up like Trappist monks.

jl10000 · 2 Jul 2015 at 20:32

John40 said:
Doesn't need any explanation, whatever his immature childish irrelevant views are to call a one minute silence for 30 murdered British people total bulls**t is despicable.

I won't be taking part in 'Dave's' one minute silence either, the man is a pillock. He doesn't dictate what people are allowed to think or feel about what happened (though I'm sure he would like to).

The gunman trained in free Libya, cheers for helping him 'Dave'!

SciNeT · 2 Jul 2015 at 20:32

do_ron_ron said:
Our interventions in the mid east and N. Africa have been such a stunning success. It is worth noting that the guy who killed the people was trained in Libya by IS according to the Tunisians. Who created the mess that is now Libya and allowed IS to set up a training camp(according to US intelligence) ? The UK and France. Stop meddling.

Wouldn't make any difference, Islamic terrorists would still be doing these sorts of attacks even if foreign policy was different. They are mandated to behave this way by their religion.

scorza · 2 Jul 2015 at 20:35

Amp34 said:
So do you believe we were still right to attack Iraq and Libya, and that we are not at least a (fairly major) part of the reason these countries are in the state they are in now?

Also, do you have any evidence of the rampant jihadistm in Serbia? I must have missed that when I was there last year... Or is a bit like your no go areas in the UK?

Iraq no - Libya yes - Gaddafi had it coming a long time.

Well perhaps if you went to the right country it might be a start :rolleyes:

Foreign jihadis (including British Muslims) fighting against the Serbs/UN peacekeepers is pretty much well known and has been reported on many times. Keep your head in the sand though - it suits you.

JohnnyG · 2 Jul 2015 at 20:35

jl10000 said:
I won't be taking part in 'Dave's' one minute silence either, the man is a pillock. He doesn't dictate what people are allowed to think or feel about what happened (though I'm sure he would like to).

The gunman trained in free Libya, cheers for helping him 'Dave'!

Lol.
It's not Dave's one minute silence at all

I bet you blame Tory voters for the massacre too.

scorza · 2 Jul 2015 at 20:35

JohnnyG said:
No-one should let anyone ethnically cleanse anywhere :/

Yet that's exactly what we've done with the Islamic State.

ak22 · 2 Jul 2015 at 20:48

And countless other countrys we only step in if we have some thing to gain. Sad world we live in

JohnnyG · 2 Jul 2015 at 20:54

scorza said:
Yet that's exactly what we've done with the Islamic State.

Eh?

scorza · 2 Jul 2015 at 20:58

JohnnyG said:
Eh?

In case you missed it, Islamic State have been ethnically cleansing parts of Syria and Iraq of non-Sunni Muslims over the past year or so. We've (the West) stood by and let it happen.

wildman · 2 Jul 2015 at 21:10

Johno please? said:
lol at people who think the region was stable before we intervened, people keep saying this crap and its still crap everytime its posted.

it wasn't stable by our measure but the tin pot dictators kept the natives in check or at least they did untill the west gave them the gift of democracy which was delivered on the end of depleted uranium ordnance and cluster bombs from jesus...................

edscdk · 2 Jul 2015 at 21:21

Uther said:
Just ******* in the wind. The only way to sort the problem would be to nuke the whole region and ban all religion.~
Of course that will never happen so I expect this to go on for decades.

um, i think that would make it a lot worse, also nukes look big but on the scale of a country they are small... and the bomb is gonna cost more than the stuff you blow up over there... and probably everyone you kill will be innocent...

ak22 · 2 Jul 2015 at 21:26

Uther said:
Just ******* in the wind. The only way to sort the problem would be to nuke the whole region and ban all religion.~
Of course that will never happen so I expect this to go on for decades.

You think people would not fight if there was no religion? ROFL

JohnnyG · 2 Jul 2015 at 21:42

scorza said:
In case you missed it, Islamic State have been ethnically cleansing parts of Syria and Iraq of non-Sunni Muslims over the past year or so. We've (the West) stood by and let it happen.

In case you've missed it we haven't, and no-one should ever stand by it and let it happen or advocate it.

StriderX · 2 Jul 2015 at 21:47

Should we not intervene in Libya instead? i mean it also contributes heavily to the Migrant crisis... MP i.e. Moronic people.

robgmun · 2 Jul 2015 at 22:23

I refuse to call them Daesh, it's a meaningless word and stupid

RoboCod · 2 Jul 2015 at 22:31

robgmun said:
I refuse to call them Daesh, it's a meaningless word and stupid

You tell em!