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I'm seeing what's missing from it, which makes the argument very weak, if not null. That does not mean I know if it happened or not, but the motive is evidently stronger for the Jihadis to have staged it, and that is my issue with your argument - that you take the time to suggest weak explanations of why Assad might have done it, but I have not seen you admit that the Jihadis have a far stronger motive.




Think it through - how do these terrorists fight in cities these days? Do they come in 4x4 troops blaring their horns and firing their rifles as they used to in the past? Or do they discreetly gather little by little in pockets of cities, merging in with the rest of inhabitants, and then once they have brought in enough weapons and ammo, they take women and children as hostages and launch an assault? De facto, the government forces are going to lose ground immediately when that happens, until the surge is repelled. The bigger picture is that every time this happens, Assad's forces are winning every single battle.

The strength of possibilty that anyone else might have done it largely irrelevant in the context of the strength of motivations or lack of by Assad my post wasn't reasoning who might have done it just against the arguements as to Assad's possible motivation - again you are just selectively seeing what you want to.

Tactics and why Assad's forces were repulsed in this instance cover a wide range of variables including experience of both sides involved, etc.
 
How is it all BS?

We know for a fact that our own government is beyond incompetent and holds nothing but contempt for anyone earning below $100k, there's a good god damn reason trust is low, because they keep ******* lying and hurting their citizens.

The only reason the US and UK are currently in this embarrassing situation is because we put ourselves there, Russia or whomever else is involved is barely a blip on the bigger inter-connected problems we have in the West that we don't seem to want to solve. We gloss over it with "apparent" increases in wealth, well it can't continue forever and we will be forced to deal with it eventually.

What are these big inter connected problems that we have? It just sounds like more self deprecating vitriol. I know you don't want to hear this but, you there, living in the west, has never had it so good.

But our economical ones will be severely hampered, far more important in the long run.

But you just said that's just "Apparent" increases in wealth anyway. So why worry.

while wrong, the whole Ukrainian situation was instigated by the US.

:D

I am still prepared to accept Assad or even Russia is behind the attack.
Praise be!

Assad interview

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Thought he didn't care what the world thinks?

Makes a good point @ 3:40 - the Jihadis were advancing and gaining ground a few weeks ago and if he'd had chemical weapons why not use them then. Not that it matters to those programmed to react to staged events by their governments, because these days even an innocent "hello" from Putin or Assad can be spun to mean an insult to someone, or a sign of "belligerence".

Be honest, am I seriously witnessing a little contest between you guys? One called, "be the biggest shill"? It's an in joke isn't it?
 
What are these big inter connected problems that we have? It just sounds like more self deprecating vitriol. I know you don't want to hear this but, you there, living in the west, has never had it so good.

Well without going too off topic (not that it seems to matter), the social structures that we have at the moment, what happens in one part ends up conjuring up problems elsewhere, usually out of stupidity of government but, still a lot of it seems idealogical and thus easy to manipulate.

Lets look at the US, it literally just gave itself a tax break, while increasing it's financial burden, bit strange for supposed conservatives wouldn't you say? We're in a constant cycle of repair and lack of meaningful progress as a culture, it can't continue realistically for much longer, as those "apparent wealth" increases are just that, apparent... invented.
 
Well Trump has now announced strikes on Syria will go ahead

I hope Vlad won't back up what he said on defending Syria and attacking the launch platforms because that will be all out war

USA, France and UK sending the strike at the moment
 
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''This is not about intervening in a civil war. It is not about regime change.''

Yes it is.

It's always been about getting rid of Assad

It is about a limited and targeted strike that does not further escalate tensions in the region and that does everything possible to prevent civilian casualties

Because dropping a bunch of bombs never escalated anything right ?

Surprised though we only sent 4 Tornado's in the strike, seem more like a little poke than a punch to the gut they're claiming this is supposed to be

I'm eagerly anticipating Russia's response to this though, I want to know what Vlad has to say
 
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