ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.

Always amuses me when people talk about the masses and MSM, etc. and fair enough apply critical thinking to whatever side they claim the masses are deluded by... and then swallow the alternative position whole, leaving critical thinking at the door and somehow are enlightened.
 
Interested to know, what do you think to be a reliable and irrefutable information source? It seems you have the answers after all.

Nah, you can put something forward that justifies your continued 'CT whack job lul' rhetoric. Feel free to round up your other cronies in here if you need support. But do have a bit of brainstorm between yourselves first and please try your best and come back with something coherent.

At least then I can remain hopeful that you'll all provide me with some form of amusement, however small that might be.
 
Nah, you can put something forward that justifies your continued 'CT whack job lul' rhetoric. Feel free to round up your other cronies in here if you need support. But do have a bit of brainstorm between yourselves first and please try your best and come back with something coherent.

At least then I can remain hopeful that you'll all provide me with some form of amusement, however small that might be.

So no credible sources of note then?

My cronies? All I see are a sizeable number of forum dwellers (this includes yourself) bleating the same tune. And you have the audacity to label everyone else sheep :) it's cute.

But yes, you are also yet another CT nut whack job. I'll be sure to add you to the list of people who don't warrant reasonable debate, just simple petty tit for tat. Shame that list is so long in here isn't it?
 
are you claiming you didnt cry when Assad beat back isis?

just be honest, i'm not going to laugh at you
I haven't a clue what you're rambling on about now. Make your point then move on, I suspect you're the only person here keen to hear it.
 
So no credible sources of note then?

My cronies? All I see are a sizeable number of forum dwellers (this includes yourself) bleating the same tune. And you have the audacity to label everyone else sheep :) it's cute.

But yes, you are also yet another CT nut whack job. I'll be sure to add you to the list of people who don't warrant reasonable debate, just simple petty tit for tat. Shame that list is so long in here isn't it?

Audacity? Haha, that is rich coming from you who consistently dismisses everyone who questions the mainstream media with derogatory one liners, only to then remain in some strange misguided belief that you're in a position to pass judgement over them as to whether they're worthy of a 'reasonable' debate. Wow, talk about double-standards.

And you can label me up all you want as your opinion is utterly worthless. All I've said in the thread is that the US like to overthrow countries that don't play ball and I don't believe Assad used chemical weapons in Dourma. That's it. You on the other hand are the one engaging in petty tit tat as you're unwilling (more like unable) to provide any contructive criticism to the contrary. And I made a sheep reference to you and your ba-ba friends because of that and your lack of maturity. You are clearly confused if you think that was directed at 'everyone.'

You want credible sources? I wish you were just trolling at this point, but sadly that is not the case. You see a child could glance over America's foreign policy for the last 70+ years and have more of a clue of what's going on than you ever probably will. But you need proof...Would you like me to provide credible sources that the Earth isn't flat as well?

If you cannot 'connect' the dots and understand what's going after all this time then I can only presume you didn't fare so well on the genetic lottery upstairs. So I will air pity on you as it's not you're fault, that's just the way the cookie crumbles.
 
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All I've said in the thread is that the US like to overthrow countries that don't play ball and I don't believe Assad used chemical weapons in Dourma. That's it.

Nope, you started off with.....

I didn't need a memo to conclude that the chemical attack was fabricated (even if there was one) as I knew it was bogus the moment I saw the video. And if there was a chemical attack, I'm certainly not stupid and naïve (unlike some people on here, obviously) enough to believe it was Assad because the 'BBC' says so, or Macron - LOL.

(I) have more of a clue of what's going on than you ever probably will.?

Strong.

Yet still no sauce! :D
 
Audacity? Haha, that is rich coming from you who consistently dismisses everyone who questions the mainstream media with derogatory one liners, only to then remain in some strange misguided belief that you're in a position to pass judgement over them as to whether they're worthy of a 'reasonable' debate. Wow, talk about double-standards.

And you can label me up all you want as your opinion is utterly worthless. All I've said in the thread is that the US like to overthrow countries that don't play ball and I don't believe Assad used chemical weapons in Dourma. That's it. You on the other hand are the one engaging in petty tit tat as you're unwilling (more like unable) to provide any contructive criticism to the contrary. And I made a sheep reference to you and your ba-ba friends because of that and your lack of maturity. You are clearly confused if you think that was directed at 'everyone.'

You want credible sources? I wish you were just trolling at this point, but sadly that is not the case. You see a child could glance over America's foreign policy for the last 70+ years and have more of a clue of what's going on than you ever probably will. But you need proof...Would you like me to provide credible sources that the Earth isn't flat as well?

If you cannot 'connect' the dots and understand what's going after all this time then I can only presume you didn't fare so well on the genetic lottery upstairs. So I will air pity on you as it's not you're fault, that's just the way the cookie crumbles.

:D

He works in a secret branch of a secret branch of a secret branch of government. He ain't Bond, he's Johnny English
 
I haven't a clue what you're rambling on about. I'm glad you're having fun though. Haha.
He's making fun of the way your default argument is to claim everyone else is wrong because you know more about whats going on than everyone else due to your super secret job that you're not allowed to talk about, but you can never back up your claims due to not being allowed to talk about it.


And if there was a chemical attack, I'm certainly not stupid and naïve (unlike some people on here, obviously) enough to believe it was Assad because the 'BBC' says so, or Macron - LOL.
So, you think people who trust or take with a pinch of salt information from reputable/regulated news sources are stupid. But you're smart because you read things on disreputable/unregulated websites and choose to believe them because they fit you bias?
 
So, you think people who trust or take with a pinch of salt information from reputable/regulated news sources are stupid. But you're smart because you read things on disreputable/unregulated websites and choose to believe them because they fit you bias?

Is the MSM really so reliable? What makes the MSM so deceptive is that they lie by omission.

Type in on YouTube media lies or similar. If you come back saying MSM like the BBC etc is reliable you seriously suck need to try saying the alphabet out loud with someone to check you've got it correct.

Fact is independent investigative journalism is taking centre stage on some of the biggest scandals going on in the world right now.
 
Is the MSM really so reliable? What makes the MSM so deceptive is that they lie by omission.

Ahh, right now that's different point (and not something I would necessarily disagree with) But that's not what is being argued, which is what is being reported by the MSM is outright lies.

Everything has a level of bias, but at least with the MSM it does have a level of checks and balances. If they report something that is patently false they can be, and are, held to account for it. And yes, independent journalists always have been and still are very important, and do uncover important stories and those are then reported by the MSM, but all the random CT youtube videos and wacky theories posted on Reddit that i'm aware of haven't really stood up to much scrutiny so far
 
Is the MSM really so reliable?
Compared to random unverified/unregulated news sites and Facebook pages that just post tripe or heavily misrepresent facts? Yes, extremely so. Generally speaking when somebody "woke" says "You won't see this on the BBC!" what they actually mean is that either they won't see it on the BBC because they don't watch it, or that it won't be on the BBC because the story is either made up or misrepresenting the facts (and in either case the BBC can't show it because they are regulated).

In genera?: It's still yes, the BBC is one of the more balanced/reliable sources, albeit you should never get your news from just one source. Generally speaking a great way to see if something is fairly balanced is to look at who complains it's biased, in the case of the BBC literally everyone complains it's biased against them, the left, the right, the government, the opposition, etc. If you ever see a news article you feel is genuinely unbiased that just means it mirrors your personal bias.
 
Last ISIS pocket within Damascus (I think) now being cleared with most of them agreeing to leave the area for the desert.

Just leaves the ISIS pocket near the Golan left in that part of the country AFAIK.
 
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