It just can't be possible or?

[Simon0001]

Lol what's that all record?

 

[SexyGreyFox]

It's a good thing that electrical items now come with a pre-wired plug. Can you imagine the carnage?

Yes I can and many years ago I had to represent a work colleague/best mate in a disciplinary meeting and these were the factory cables you get with your product.
We worked at Creda/Hotpoint and my mate had always been a Packer and they bought him out of the warehouse to do a job on the assembly lines so he was in a strange world.
He had to wire up the plugs to the cables that were put inside the oven in a plastic bags and then the cooker fitter would put that on in the house.
He'd been doing it for 3 days when Quality picked up one of his efforts, grabbed another 10 cookers and then bonded the whole of the last 3 days cookers in the warehouse, some had gone out so we quickly had to intercept where they were going.
He had zero idea how to wire a plug, he saw 3 wires and put them anywhere and nobody had trained him how to do it, yes you can laugh at him but he had no idea wires went into certain places.
Anyway, they left him to stew for 2 weeks before I went in and said 'who trained him?' and of course nobody did so I made his manager go and apologise to him for the stress.

 

[aardvark]

nah he's just an idiot - its not like there are many possibilities.

 

[Mr Blonde]

Yes I can and many years ago I had to represent a work colleague/best mate in a disciplinary meeting and these were the factory cables you get with your product.
We worked at Creda/Hotpoint and my mate had always been a Packer and they bought him out of the warehouse to do a job on the assembly lines so he was in a strange world.
He had to wire up the plugs to the cables that were put inside the oven in a plastic bags and then the cooker fitter would put that on in the house.
He'd been doing it for 3 days when Quality picked up one of his efforts, grabbed another 10 cookers and then bonded the whole of the last 3 days cookers in the warehouse, some had gone out so we quickly had to intercept where they were going.
He had zero idea how to wire a plug, he saw 3 wires and put them anywhere and nobody had trained him how to do it, yes you can laugh at him but he had no idea wires went into certain places.
Anyway, they left him to stew for 2 weeks before I went in and said 'who trained him?' and of course nobody did so I made his manager go and apologise to him for the stress.

Without wanting to come across as flippant at all here, did your friend have any concept of the potential danger carried by those wires at all, or do you think he literally could have put his fingers, a screwdriver or some water for example into a wall socket with out a thought? Genuine question.

 

[Freakbro]

It's a good thing that electrical items now come with a pre-wired plug. Can you imagine the carnage?

Wasn't it due to the carnage why we now have pre wired plugs?

There are always idiots, no matter the generation

 

[Terminal_Boy]

Without wanting to come across as flippant at all here, did your friend have any concept of the potential danger carried by those wires at all, or do you think he literally could have put his fingers, a screwdriver or some water for example into a wall socket with out a thought? Genuine question.

The shocking (pun intended) thing is that he wasn’t given any training and no-one checked his work. Both are inexcusable. He might have been the best packer ever, but they shouldn’t have let him anywhere near an electrical assembly job without a load of training. New assembly worker should be under 100% QA inspection until they prove themselves.

 

[Demon]

The shocking (pun intended) thing is that he wasn’t given any training and no-one checked his work. Both are inexcusable. He might have been the best packer ever, but they shouldn’t have let him anywhere near an electrical assembly job without a load of training. New assembly worker should be under 100% QA inspection until they prove themselves.

So many crazy things in that account:
1. No training / competency checking
2. No work instruction to show how to wire it
3. No final test of what is one of the rare parts that contribute to electrical safety.

I can well believe he would not have known what to do, my Mrs once put a plug on an extension lead, luckily I checked it when I got home (before it was plugged in) and found the earth lead connected to the live pin :O , she said her dad had taught her how to wire a plug but clearly had forgotten the exact order...

 

[Terminal_Boy]

Moulded plugs on appliances must have saved hundreds of lives in the U.K. alone.

Another subject that no-one seems to teach these days is a basic understand of how cars work and what you should check regularly. Asking a non-petrolhead how to change a wheel is usually met by “call the AA/RAC/Green Flag” in my experience.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

Without wanting to come across as flippant at all here, did your friend have any concept of the potential danger carried by those wires at all, or do you think he literally could have put his fingers, a screwdriver or some water for example into a wall socket with out a thought? Genuine question.

Not flippant at all, I asked the same questions - he had no idea how electricity worked and very strange because just like me he has played in bands all his life setting up his amps and PA systems.
He must have been around 40 at the time and he'd never put a plug on anything, he always got his Dad to do it.
When he was sitting at the bench he never thought to ask any one of 100 people who would have been in close contact to him - it was 3 wires, 3 holes job done. Oh and the wires were all different lengths and squashed into the plug.
The worst bit was he looked like a stick and every day he would cycle down to my house in full lycra to have a talk with me. I had to get him in the house quick so neighbours didn't see him

 

[SexyGreyFox]

So many crazy things in that account:
1. No training / competency checking
2. No work instruction to show how to wire it
3. No final test of what is one of the rare parts that contribute to electrical safety.

I can well believe he would not have known what to do, my Mrs once put a plug on an extension lead, luckily I checked it when I got home (before it was plugged in) and found the earth lead connected to the live pin :O , she said her dad had taught her how to wire a plug but clearly had forgotten the exact order...

There was a template for cutting the wires to length.
Our electrical testers were all given competency tests and a book was signed but wiring jobs on the factory were just mouth to mouth.
This is at least 30 years ago on Creda/Hotpoint so was a different animal to what would happen now so it really isn't a surprise.
Mind you saying that, my In Laws work on an assembly factory in Stone and the Health & Safety stuff they were telling me about yesterday harks back to the 70s.

 

[Mr Blonde]

Not flippant at all, I asked the same questions - he had no idea how electricity worked and very strange because just like me he has played in bands all his life setting up his amps and PA systems.
He must have been around 40 at the time and he'd never put a plug on anything, he always got his Dad to do it.
When he was sitting at the bench he never thought to ask any one of 100 people who would have been in close contact to him - it was 3 wires, 3 holes job done. Oh and the wires were all different lengths and squashed into the plug.
The worst bit was he looked like a stick and every day he would cycle down to my house in full lycra to have a talk with me. I had to get him in the house quick so neighbours didn't see him

I was about to add that all plugs would have also had the L, N and E letters on the inside terminals but maybe they didn't on factory added ones. Wow, just wow. Thanks.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

I was about to add that all plugs would have also had the L, N and E letters on the inside terminals but maybe they didn't on factory added ones. Wow, just wow. Thanks.

Yes they did but he wouldn't have a clue what they meant.
I bet if I asked my two Son in Laws to change a plug they wouldn't have a clue either because I go up and do it.

 

[Mr Blonde]

Yes they did but he wouldn't have a clue what they meant.
I bet if I asked my two Son in Laws to change a plug they wouldn't have a clue either because I go up and do it.

I shouldn't be too shocked to be fair. Me and the missus went to the science museum years a go and while passing a big transformer I said, "hey, look at the size of this one" at the same time I reached out and touched it and convulsed all over the place. My misses had a fit on the spot and nearly feinted. I couldn't understand why she wasn't amused lol.

 

[Old Man]

No reason i should be shocked about it (i suppose), since the same thing would be the case is you showed new or present tech to people back in the 1950's.

 

[theone8181]

Moulded plugs on appliances must have saved hundreds of lives in the U.K. alone.

Another subject that no-one seems to teach these days is a basic understand of how cars work and what you should check regularly. Asking a non-petrolhead how to change a wheel is usually met by “call the AA/RAC/Green Flag” in my experience.

Tbf nowadays when you don't get a spare there's not much you can do.

 

[FoxEye]

Get all the boomers laughing how he can't put a cassette tape in but they can't even turn a computer on.

Gen X|Y is the best gen.

We can work the old Gen X tech (we were curious kids back then). We can work Gen Y tech with ease.

And we can all agree that Gen Z suck We look at Gen Z as tho we're watching Idiocracy live

e: OK that was pretty tongue-in-cheek before someone gets triggered and needs a safe space

The reality may well be that student union activists of every generation did/will suck ( ) along with "social media influencers" and all that hot garbage. The difference is now they've got unlimited airtime and legions of vocal followers.

 

[=XDC=FluphyBunny]

It's okay because his generation are going to fix all of the worlds problems, just give him a sign and tell him where and when the protest is.

You realise it’s the current and past generations that have made such a mess of the world that it needs fixing.

 

[Old Man]

For the mature (better looking, etc generation), remember this?

 

[Deleted member 77746]

For the mature (better looking, etc generation), remember this?

his password was qwerty I think lol what a set of geeks. lol she has a list what she has in the fridge. What the hell!

 

[Hades]

Yes I can and many years ago I had to represent a work colleague/best mate in a disciplinary meeting and these were the factory cables you get with your product.
We worked at Creda/Hotpoint and my mate had always been a Packer and they bought him out of the warehouse to do a job on the assembly lines so he was in a strange world.
He had to wire up the plugs to the cables that were put inside the oven in a plastic bags and then the cooker fitter would put that on in the house.
He'd been doing it for 3 days when Quality picked up one of his efforts, grabbed another 10 cookers and then bonded the whole of the last 3 days cookers in the warehouse, some had gone out so we quickly had to intercept where they were going.
He had zero idea how to wire a plug, he saw 3 wires and put them anywhere and nobody had trained him how to do it, yes you can laugh at him but he had no idea wires went into certain places.
Anyway, they left him to stew for 2 weeks before I went in and said 'who trained him?' and of course nobody did so I made his manager go and apologise to him for the stress.

Good on you. You did the right thing. Although he should have asked how to do it, it was the companies job to make sure he was trained and peer reviewed at first. Wiring a plug seems simple to old farts like us but I can image how young people have never had to do it. It's just occurred to me that neither of my kids do. So I'll be showing them.