"It just works"?

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Have Apple ever managed to take advantage of their we make the hardware and the software situation (which they do not hold back on harping on about), and actually ship products without serious show-stopping issues?

Of course they have, I know - but I am quickly starting to forget those times which were now so long ago.

iPod casings, iPhones 2G and 3G (umpteen dozen software related issues and several with the 1st gen iPhone hardware), this generation and the last generation of iMacs, HUGE problems with all of the new unibody Macbooks and Macbook Pros, and now a fairly critical problem with the new Mac Pros.

Paying for superior quality? I use Macs because they "just work"? Hmm.

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[iPhone owner, three times Macbook owner]
 
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Ouch, that is pretty bad for a £2,000 notebook. I have a Penryn 2.4GHZ MacBook Pro and have definitely been affected by the overheating issues, especially when running windows via boot camp.. You would have thought that Apple would have sorted these issues out, hopefully it will be able be to be counter-acted by a new update so that the fans kick in at the right time under load.
 
Gman said:
Had a unibody since the release date and no issues at all
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Google for "unibody wifi sleep", "unibody freeze on wake". Recall the click problems with the multi-touch pad, even more click problems with trackpads, and the still persisting "3.5 finger" click required in Bootcamp, Macbooks crashing when used with the Mac keyboard? Fan whine problems? The HDMI fiasco that wouldn't allow you to play video via the DisplayPort as it thought everything you tried to play was "unlicensed"? Problems sensing the power adapter (and not going into charge mode)? Oh, must not forget the cracking iPhone housings. Or how about the so-slow-it-is-unusable-without-a-restart typing bug in pre-2.0 iPhone firmware? Oh, and remember when Apple published an update which BROKE mail fetching completely? This went unpatched for a good few months.

I'm sure everyone remember the MobileMe problems, including push not being fully implemented until about 3 months ago.
 
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"unibody wifi sleep" - Never had that problem with mine
"unibody freeze on wake" - Again not a problem here
"Click problem" - Not noticed this although I do usually tap and not click
"3 Finger Click" - Yes got this issue in bootcamp
"Keyboard crash" - Don't use the mac keyboard so don't know
"Fan" - Apart from it tending to get a little warm in bootcamp nothing noticed
"Sensing power adaptor" - not noticed this
"HDMI" - I use the Display port to dvi > hdmo dongle and not noticed any display issue on my hd tv
 
And of course uncurable "look into my eyes, it doesn't happen" electric shocks from unibodies.
 
Gman said:
"unibody wifi sleep" - Never had that problem with mine
"unibody freeze on wake" - Again not a problem here
"Click problem" - Not noticed this although I do usually tap and not click
"3 Finger Click" - Yes got this issue in bootcamp
"Keyboard crash" - Don't use the mac keyboard so don't know
"Fan" - Apart from it tending to get a little warm in bootcamp nothing noticed
"Sensing power adaptor" - not noticed this
"HDMI" - I use the Display port to dvi > hdmo dongle and not noticed any display issue on my hd tv
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Just because you didn't experience, or don't use a broken feature, doesn't render a substantial number of those (majorities in most cases) who did void :rolleyes:
 
So thieve sold millions of Unibodies since release and just because a % of these are reported to have problems instantly means EVERYONE of them has the problems? ...... oh and seen as your seem to like them take a some rolly eyes :rolleyes:
 
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Gman said:
So thieve sold millions of Unibodies since release and just because a % of these are reported to have problems instantly means EVERYONE of them has the problems? ...... oh and seen as your seem to like them take a some rolly eyes :rolleyes:
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That really isn't what he said at all :confused:

Technically Apple are lying if even a SINGLE product goes wrong. It's a very arrogant punchline when it seems consistently proven not to be the case, especially more of late. Perhaps their previous QC record simply can't keep up with current demand. They're going to have to revise something because it won't wash forever.

Wicksta: Good chuckle, cheers!
 
I guess he meant all of the models rather than all of the laptops sold. However, to say that the majority of users had problem is unsubstantiated.

Anyway. The whole 'it just works' line is not related to whether the product has solid reliability on launch, but the base of applications and not needing configuration before use idea.
 
Anyway. The whole 'it just works' line is not related to whether the product has solid reliability on launch, but the base of applications and not needing configuration before use idea.
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I was going to say this.

Problems like this only started once nvidia got involved.....
 
My PowerMac G4 867 DP "just worked" for 5 years.
My Macbook Pro 15" has "just worked" for 18 months
My iPhone worked for 8 months and then the touch screen died, got a new one in ~ 10 mins.

Whats the problems with the new Mac Pros?! No one has them yet?!
 
Wicksta said:
Apple products never go wrong, they are all perfect

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/PLEASE TAKE AWAY THIS INFIDEL (OP) AND 'PROCESS' HIM!!!

:P
 
likwid said:
Anyway. The whole 'it just works' line is not related to whether the product has solid reliability on launch, but the base of applications and not needing configuration before use idea.
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Call me cynical, but I somehow doubt that's the way Apple want the general consumer base to see it ;) To me (And i'm sure everyone else without anything more than a rudimentary grasp of computers) 'It just works' means exactly that. It Just Works. If any part of the machine that falls under this banner (Ie, All of it, as they control the hardware and software etc etc) fails to work, it no longer just works.

You could always argue that they don't put a time limit on it I guess :D

"It Just Works!*

*For the first 5 minutes after you pull it out of the box, after that, you're on your own"
 
Slogan said:
Wow, a hardware product has problems.

Let's get the flares ready.
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I wasn't simply pointing out "a hardware product has problems". If you think that, you should spend more time reading the opening post before trashing the thread.

I was poking at Apple and Apple fans for their "It just just works" tag line. Also for Apple harping on about them being at advantage (over other vendors like Microsoft) because they develop the hardware AND software, so they have "less problems" - this is simply not the case.

I half-expected a response like this from someone with Steve Jobs in their signature.
 
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